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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:34 pm 
I often check Northlight Images rumour page and Canon rumours, and it looks like, as per usual we will be seeing some new cameras and lenses in the next few weeks. According to rumours we could be seeing a 60D/7D and a 2000D/T1. Anyway i thought i start a general thread to speculate on the new releases :D .

I think we will definately see a 2000D and most likely a 60D, but i am sure that the main thing everyone is interested in here is a 7D, which would become Canon's budget FF camera, or a better competitor to the Nikon D700 in time for the olympic games. I would really like to see this, and i am sure the sales would be huge for a FF camera priced at around £1500 SRP, i would cetainly buy one and i am sure many other people would, but weather we actually see one is another story altogether.

Anyway, also i have come across another interesting thing, about a post in the RED camera forum, about the best video yet seen in a Canon DSLR, possibly with RAW video out. You can find a link to that page Here

Let the speculation begin!


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do u think that t1/2000d will have video mode or not?


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I've not kept up to date with the rumours. If they do a cheap FF, that would be interesting, but as always it comes down to how cheap for what feature set?

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I'm hoping the 7D is the old 5D MkI with the new screen, dust reduction sensor, AF micro adjustment the new DIGIC chip to improve the already great high ISO performance of the classic 5D.

If this is so my bank account is in serious trouble :wink:

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Enche Zein wrote:
do u think that t1/2000d will have video mode or not?


Apparently Canon are going to trump Nikon with video in their entry level, it will probably only be 720P though!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:03 pm 
From the name (7D), it seems like the camera is more advanced than (5D). Maybe like 50D but use FF sensor. This camera probably will compete with Nikon D700, or even D700x (also a rumor hehe)


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Enche Zein wrote:
do u think that t1/2000d will have video mode or not?


Apparently Canon are going to trump Nikon with video in their entry level, it will probably only be 720P though!


I think video mode is important for holiday travel.There are many instances that video will able to record the moment better for example dance, singing shows, wildlife.

It is great if Canon add video to T1, but only if the price is below $600. I think they can make it.


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Enche Zein wrote:
From the name (7D), it seems like the camera is more advanced than (5D). Maybe like 50D but use FF sensor. This camera probably will compete with Nikon D700, or even D700x (also a rumor hehe)

Don't forget Canon's number scheme. 1D is better than 5D, so 7D would be even lower in the range. It might go against the Sony A850 with no current Nikon model in that space.

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Not long to wait, anyway. The 50D was marketed in September 2008 and the Rebel XS/1000D/Kiss F was marketed in June 2008 so you'd think that it would be the latter model that would most likely be upgraded, especially with Nikon's new D3000 model being released. A lot of rumours seem to have circulated around a 60D and with Nikon's D300s announced I guess that's also possible as the 50D followed the 40D after just one year.

The 1-series cameras get updated less often and it's turn of the 1D MkIII this time around with a rumoured announcement in September. But the 1Ds MkIII may also be due for earlier than usual replacement given the 5D MkII sensor is better even though the body definitely isn't 1-series quality. Some have suggested a single model to replace both but whether it's technically possible only Canon can know: it'll be a startlingly good trick if they do manage this given the bandwidth requirements of a high pixel count and a high continuous frame rate.

And then there's new lenses. We already know that Canon will incorporate Hybrid IS in one lens before the end of the year but I've not been convinced that any of the rumoured new/replacement lenses are the product of anything but wishful thinking. But with pixel densities increasing I think that has to be focussing attention on some of Canon's less stellar performers.

As usual Canon seem to be rather better at controlling leaks than some others, or maybe they miss a trick by not using the "teaser" strategy. And hopefully they'll also announce a rebate scheme for Europe.

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If the 7d is released im selling the 5d mkii, I would rather have on old 5d than a new camcorder.

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If the 7d is released im selling the 5d mkii, I would rather have on old 5d than a new camcorder.


Huh? Just don't use the video functions if you don't need them :P


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:20 am 
They allready have an "affordable" fullframe model - it's called the 5DMK2 :?

Seriously, I don't think they will release a 7D for half the price with similar image quality (and it would be if they put a FF sensor in it). That would cannibalize the sales of their 5D too much.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:30 am 
popo wrote:
Don't forget Canon's number scheme. 1D is better than 5D, so 7D would be even lower in the range. It might go against the Sony A850 with no current Nikon model in that space.


That will be interesting as Canon most likely would make the 7d a lower res camera than the 5dMkII which would give it similar resolution to the D700 at a much lower cost and significantly lower resolution than the A850 at a similar cost.


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I've just gone through various rumour posts elsewhere, and I think it's all guessing. Unlike the Sony leak, there's nothing at all to back any of it up.

Personal speculation:
60D might have a higher jump in functionality than previous updates in the series and bring it closer to D300 like level.
7D could be a value FF. I find it hard to believe they would recycle the 5D1 sensor. At this level I'm not sure making a brand new sensor would be economic unless it provided other manufacturing benefits as opposed to technical benefits. So, could they cripple the whole 5D2 design enough to differentiate it? Compare 1000D to 450D for example. A bit less features for a bit less cash, where the cut down features are enough for people to go, should I pay more for the full monty?

As a wild card comparison, also consider the A900 and 5D2 launch. Sony goes "Hey everybody, we have the highest pixel count FF at 24MP. Check this out!" Everyone goes wow, as well as other comments I wont repeat :wink: A few days later Canon goes "Ok, we don't exactly have the same MP but close enough, but we have more toys and, by the way, we're Canon". Could we draw a parallel with that? I know this is speculation based on what are still rumours, but Sony are thinking "A850: even cheaper FF. No one else has one. The market is ours.". Canon goes "*cough* 7D. We can do it too. :P"

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:10 am 
I would think that Canon would be more Likely to release another 1.3 crop, than another fullframe.

the 1.3 crop could fit in the gap between the 50D (or 60D), and the 5D mkII.


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