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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:12 pm 
I've been looking at ta few digital slrs, and I've decided that i want a camera with about 10 megapixels. The 400D seems very nice, except for the 18-55mm kit that comes in the kit :( Is it rly that bad? About the D40x it seems very nice aswell, but the fact that theres no built-in AF is bad aswell. The Sony Alpha 100 is because of the features such as anti dust and supersteady shot. But some of the reviews that I've read says that the image -quality isn't as good as the others, and I dont know about the Sony system (i mean if theres is enough lenses for my needs). The D80 seems to cover all of my needs except for the antishaking, but it also costs alot more :? I'm also thinking a little about the Olympus E-510, but well i dont rly know... I any1 got any suggestions to other cameras, pls speak :D


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Hi Cam-kid, they're all capable of delivering great results, so once you've compared features and pricing, you should pick them all up in person and see which looks and feels best to you.

As for the features, have a look at our following articles:

This compares the D80, 400D and A100:

http://www.cameralabs.com/features/10Me ... DSLR_test/

And our E-510 verdice compares them all, here:

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Olymp ... dict.shtml

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:34 pm 
Yeah, I've seen all the videos, and been in the shops... What I rly wanna know is which one would u choose, considering price etc. ?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:50 pm 
Nikon D80.plain and simple.


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Nathan wrote:
Nikon D80.plain and simple.

Ho hum :roll:

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Pound for pound the picture taking differences are minimal at best. Go to a shop and try them out. Buy what feels better.

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 Post subject: Ok, been in the shop now
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:37 pm 
I tried out the different models. I didn't like the feeling of the 400d. I liked the d40x and the d80. Now if I was a billionare, I would have chosen the d80 right away, but fact is, I can barely afford it. So it has to be a difference worth the extra price if I should choose it. So what i want to know is; Do I get more by buying the D80? I mean alot more? I dont rly know how many other lenses I'd buy in the future so it also has to be a good kit lens. What do u think?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:00 pm 
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cam-kid wrote:
...I liked the d40x and the d80. ... So what i want to know is; Do I get more by buying the D80? I mean alot more? I dont rly know how many other lenses I'd buy in the future so it also has to be a good kit lens. What do u think?

If you haven't read it yet have a look at the Verdict page of Gordon's D40x review where he compares it to the D80.

My approach would be to try and decide what sort of photographs you would be most likely to take and try and reconcile that with the available lenses you could afford if you bought the D40x or the D80. If you can stretch to the D80 and are happy with the basic kit lens for a while then, as Gordon says, the D80 is "much better-suited to enthusiasts or anyone who wants to grow with their camera in the future."

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:33 pm 
Thanks Bob :wink:

Btw. what do u think about the alpha 100 compared to the other two? It has what seems to be a pretty good kit lens, and the supersteady-shot also seems pretty nice.


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cam-kid wrote:
Thanks Bob :wink:

Btw. what do u think about the alpha 100 compared to the other two? It has what seems to be a pretty good kit lens, and the supersteady-shot also seems pretty nice.

I'm afraid I'm not qualified to give you an opinion on the alpha 100. I'm sure others will chip in or, if you have any specific model questions, maybe a starting new thread in the Sony forum will be the best way to get your answers?

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Just my two-pence: If you're on a budget buy the cheapest camera that carries the best stabilized super-zoom:
A D40 + Nikon VR 18-200mm

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 Post subject: The D40
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:00 pm 
Do u mean the D40 or the D40X? Well it sounds ok, but I'd like a little more than 6.1 mp :?


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I really meant the D40, not the /x! You know, even the brand spanking new FF-Nikon D3 has only 5MP on the APS-C sized part of it's sensor :idea: :!: :shock:
Be assured: That combo can make awful photos for you :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:09 am 
To give you a view on the A100 (I own it's smaller brother) I would say it's force is that it's feature packed at a low price and you have a selection of really great used Minolta lenses at a low price. You get image stabilization in the camera which means all lenses has it, in Canon and Nikon you have to spent big $$$ on another lens than the kit to get that. I really value image stabilization so whatever you buy my advice is to thing about that feature twice.

If don't plan to spent money on additional lenses (which is the thing that makes the big difference in the three models IMHO) then I think all of them would give you a great experience and good results, which means personal taste should weigh most. A better lens is worth more than 4 extra MP - at least in Sony/Minolta world :) ...there is a huge difference in the lenses I own where the kit lens falls behind them all.


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