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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:49 pm 
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first i would like to way that i really admire the work that editors from this site give themslef to deliver us quality, trust worthy reviews.


But i was surprised when today cheking again the pentax k20d review and its build quality had the score of 17, wich is pretty low whn compared with cameras like sony a200 and the canon rebels that had the same rating...

maybe im misconcepting the term "build quality" but for me is the quality of the camera body, its durability, argonomics, thoughness and resistence.

But i must be wrong because its compared to the one of the Sony Alphas wich are plastic cheap and the rebels, wich are pretty smal, way to light and plastic aswell...(olympus in the other hand has a small but good tough body)

In the other hand the pentax bodys, wich are weather proof, really tough, confortable in the hand, you could throw it against a wall... worthy of a pro model...

i wish someone could explain it to me

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The answer is simple. All the scores are relative, as stated by Gordon in the reviews. The K20d is compared against mid-range cameras, not the entry-level ones you listed.

Hope that clears things up. 8)

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so, your saying that the cameras get rated depending on the class and not overall?

So when a entry level has 18 in IQ, means that its IQ is less than a mid range camera rated 17?

i tend to put everything in the same bag, no matter which class it belongs


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I don't want to speak for Gordon, nor do I know the ins-and-outs of his testing but that is what he has explained in the past. I'll let him give you a more accurate answer.

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Hi MiGue£, Mark's right.

When you read the scores, check what it is 'compared' or 'relative' to - and also check the year, as it may be relative to 2008 or 2007 models and so on.

Ultimately these numbers are just there as a brief indicator - please read the entire review, especially the verdict page to get the whole story.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:33 pm 
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ok, thank you for the clearing =)

Good work


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I have one question & I don't want to start a new topic just for it.
In the K10D verdict page,the image quality is 15/20 compared to mid-range models. I know the Pentax makes lower quality jpegs than most cameras,but is the score refering to the quality of RAW files as well?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:11 pm 
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These scores take a lot of factors into consideration. The K10D was penalised for its default JPEG processing and the camera's habit of underexposing.

Again, please don't put too much weight on the scores though - they're just a brief snapshot. Read the whole review and check out the sample images and results pages for the whole story.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:20 pm 
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Thank you Gordon!

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might be deviating away from the main topic, but i have found the image stabilization quite useful during a recent trip to the smithsonian museum. all pictures taken handheld. i'm not sure how many stops advantage that is , but they came out good for someone who has shaky hands.

taken 1/20 f/5.6 50mm
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3077/2741419845_5e6bc61063.jpg?v=0

taken 1/8 f/5.6 50mm
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3231/2741420411_039204397a.jpg?v=0

taken 1/4 f/5.6 38mm
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/2741420249_2bfe475429.jpg?v=0

and for rei_vilo
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2741420755_ed4bce5e31.jpg?v=0

help appreciated also, i tried to link the images directly using [img]link[/img] but it did't work for me. thanks in advance.

alfredo


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:06 pm 
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Is this what you wanted?

taken 1/20 f/5.6 50mm
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taken 1/8 f/5.6 50mm
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taken 1/4 f/5.6 38mm
Image

and for rei_vilo
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:10 pm 
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exactly. mind going through the steps with me? might be helpful for anyone else trying to get the hang of this.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:24 pm 
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You're not the only one having trouble.

Check out these threads. Some nice piccies too. :)

http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7088

http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7283

http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7032

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