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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:06 pm 
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Hi folks,

I have no idea whether this is good information or not but if you want a teaser on the Canon EOS 40D head on over to endgadget.

That page has a number of other links to follow for more gossip and information. I wonder if the August 20th. release date is accurate?

Bob.

EDIT: I originally pulled some images into this post from another site. They have been removed so you need to follow the link to endgadget to see the pictures now. That they disappeared so quickly is, as Spock would say, fascinating!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:57 pm 
Could be a chop but if it was real it looks nice. I might look into that.


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If they're fake, they're certainly nicely rendered!

So what can we speculate from these pics?

Bigger screen (hopefully higher res too!), ISO in the viewfinder...

Shame there's 'only' what looks like a 17-85mm lens on it though. Part of the fun of new Canon DSLR announcements is at least one new lens...

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Well, well. If Canon cannot come up with an answer to Nikon's 18-200mm VR, they will continue to lose market share...

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Thomas wrote:
Well, well. If Canon cannot come up with an answer to Nikon's 18-200mm VR

Haven't you heard about the upcoming EF 17-200mm IS 8) :twisted: :lol:

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Fabricated out of thin air :twisted:
I don't get lured by unconfirmed rumors.

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Fabricated certainly, but I can't claim the credit! However, it is probably only a matter of time before Canon introduces a competitor - I don't count the the EF 28-300mm f3.5-5.6L IS USM unless you own a Canon 5D, an oil well and go to the gym to build up those biceps. So for the moment the AF-S DX VR 18-200mm 3.5-5.6G IF-ED is certainly king of the superzooms.

By the same token, if the 40D is due for release soon I imagine it won't be too long before Nikon follows it up with a "D300".

The big problem about being a technophile is that you always end up wanting deeper pockets but I love it. 8)

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The question really is, does it get more interesting from 30D to 40D or from D200 to D300?
A "jump" from 10MP to 14MP on an APS-C sized sensor will certainly not make me abandon my current investment. That would be more tempting to owners of 8MP or less.
Another automatic-mode or "face detection" :? will certainly not cut it
Shrinking the whole package by 40% could be perhaps more tempting for me (still you have to lug around the lenses...)
3 fps to 5fps? Nah...

I'd be more interestet in a high-quality 10-24mm/f4 and a 80-500mm/F4-6.3 VRII :P :D

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The 40D might get weathersealing. I think it will be weathersealed because a zoom of the button and flash hotshoe revealed canons weather sealing.


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Well, the pictures are available again so here they are:

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Here is a teaser list of features:
    Sensor 1.6x - 10 MP Self cleaning sensor
    3 inch LCD with LiveView
    Formats JPG, RAW and sRAW
    ISO 100 to 1600 in steps of 1/3
    Shooting speed 6.25 fps
    Buffer 75 JPG or 17 RAW
    Available grip BG-E2
    Possible DIGIC3

The product announcement is expected before the end of August 2007.

EDIT: Picture links re-established

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Hmm, that'd be interesting if the frame rate had been increased... where did that rumour come from?

By the way, don't assume it'll have 10mp just because the 400D / XTI has it. They can't use the same sensor if Canon wants to implement more than 3fps, so it WILL almost certainly be a new sensor.

So I'd personally be surprised if they don't also make the jump to 12 Mpixels, as (for better or worse) this will inevitably be the next step for cropped-frame DSLRs.

I'd also expect 3200 ISO like the 30D.

PS - who'd want a RAW file at a reduced resolution? If I'm interpreting that feature correctly anyway...

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Hi Gordon,

The feature list I reproduced came from http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/Canon_40D.html. That page illustrates how much speculation there is because they start off by showing pictures of what appears to be weather sealing and then include "no weather sealing" in their first feature table.

The pixel count is also quoted as both 10 and 12/13MP on that page so I guess nobody knows for sure. Could be a new sensor but with a 10MP count to keep the noise under control?

sRAW = Small Raw. Is there any way of reducing the size of a RAW file without losing data? If there is, why would you want a normal RAW? I've no idea!

The ISO question may be answered by the graphic of the top LCD. The field to the right of the ISO text reads A888 which would argue for a top ISO of 1600. There has been speculation that this might mean provision of an "Auto" ISO mode. I have no idea what that means - can you shed any light (sorry, bad pun). :roll:

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Maybe the "Small RAW" relates to what's shown on the camera's screen after exposure.

And then maybe not.

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Don't know what small-RAW is, but it is perfectly possible to compress RAW lossless. That's what is done in the D80 as I understand.
Simple mathematics (no Bob needed) shows that uncompressed 10MP RAW would be around 10Mx6Byte whereas effectively they have below 10MB

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Yep, losslessly compressed RAW files are welcome, but I wonder if that's what they mean by sRAW.


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