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 Post subject: Nikon D80 or Canon 30D
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:29 pm 
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They are pretty close in price. I'm looking at the 18-135 mm d80 or the 28-135 kit. The 30D has great noise levels at high ISO. The D80 is 1,299 USD for the 18-135 mm. Canon 30D is 1,499. Any good opinions. The d80 is nice but this is tempting.

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D80, every time mate.

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You knew Zorro would say that :twisted:
B.t.w.: I'd also vote for the D80!
You knew I would say that :twisted: :twisted:

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 Post subject: Slow down guys
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You may be right but explain why would you vote for the D80. Is it because it is a better tool than the 30D, because you prefer the Nikon lens system and accessories or because you think the upgrade path is better?

It is difficult to offer a recommendation without knowing more about rv65's needs. For instance, if he/she is into sports photography the 30D's better continuous shooting speed over the D80 may be a factor.

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P.S. Never having even held a 30D I am definitely not making a recommendation despite my commitment to Canon.

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Look at the noise in Gordon's test (wouldn't even use the D30 at ISO 400), and you know that the D30 is the model of yesteryear!
Also no chance to get the world-leading 18-200mm VR superzoom for this body!!
Plus the best flash system of any camera!!!
Need more motivation????

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Go into a shop and place each in your hand.

Then choose the Nikon.

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Hey, Zorro!

You hereby earn the accolade as/of a "Nikon fanboy" :wink:
If you wish, you may add this badge to your signature :D

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The 28-135 lens has stabilization. They are both good ones. I have held both but the canon is very tempting price. 5 FPS isn't that bad. I like that canon uses CF cards. I felt they are great cameras. Maybe I might buy the D80 but there is still time left for me to buy one so.

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 Post subject: How to decide
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Hi rv65,

Sounds like your heart is telling you to go with the 30D despite a slightly higher price. Gordon has reviewed the Canon 30D, the Nikon D80 and the Nikon D200.

In Gordon's D80 review he states "So overall there’s sufficient differences for the D80 not to be simply viewed as an ‘affordable’ D200 in a plastic body. They may have the same resolving power, but the D200 is a considerably more sophisticated camera which continues to lead the semi-pro market".

I know the D200 isn't on your list but in addition to the D200 review on this site Gordon also compares it against the Canon 30D in his 30D review. There he states "if you side more towards being a professional photographer or simply have a higher budget, then we’d say the D200 is worth the extra. If your budget’s lower, or you feel the D200’s extras wouldn’t be of particular benefit, then save yourself some cash and go for the Canon 30D. You'll enjoy lower noise levels and superb value for money".

So there we have it. The D200 is a "considerably more sophisticated camera" than the D80 while "if your budget’s lower, or you feel the D200’s extras wouldn’t be of particular benefit, then save yourself some cash and go for the Canon 30D. You'll enjoy lower noise levels and superb value for money".

Game set and match to the 30D I think!

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P.S. OK - I'm being deliberately provocative but someone needs to keep these Nikon fanboys in check. :wink:

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Yeah look at most of our sigs, was an obvious what were going to say :) I love the D80, and I read reviews and forums about it for 2 months and I never changed my mind :P

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Maybe I might go with the D80 despite a cheaper price. I do want this camera to grow with me. I dont know if I really need 5 FPS though. But it's a nice start. I originally wanted the D80. The 18-200 VR is nice though.

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One you catch up to the buffer though the 5FPS is worth it. I've had so many comments from people about how solid the D80 feels in there hands.

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 Post subject: Apples and Oranges
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Trouble is that when comparing the D80 with the 30D one isn't really comparing apples with apples. Note that Camera Labs rates the D80 as a budget DSLR while the 30D is in the semi-pro DSLR section.

To be fair, none of this matters as we all base our buying decisions on unique criteria that are personal to us. Whatever you decide to do enjoy your new camera.

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that 200 USD could come in handy for accessories. This is my first DSLR that I will own. I have used canon XT/XTI (300/350D).

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Bob,

the real problem for someone like rv65 is: Does he already know how important this or that feature is to him? Look at the 5fps feature. How can someone be sure that this is important to have over 3fps if he has had no chance really trying it out.
Same goes with me. I was so convinced, that I need a pol-filter, I even had a pol-filter in the past, but I grossly overestimated the usefulness of this "feature".
In the end I'm happy that my decision to go with Nikon turned out to be mostly correct:
Pros: superb exposure in automatic, fantastic 18-200mm stabilized zoom, low-low noise, best flash-system, nice view-finder
Cons: no camera-based anti-shake, dust, no 10-22mm wide.
Here, I said it: the D80 has cons :oops:

To me these factors are more important than the 5fps or the format of the memory-card, or whether I have life-view or not.
Perhaps we should make a poll what the top 3-5 buying criteria are for those that already have a DSLR, to give some guidance to those who are currently thinking about it.
I'd just collect some topics here, and when we have enough then setup the poll.

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