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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:49 pm 
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The Df's retro appearance is OK, but I have always like the Giugiaro-designed Nikon bodies, which, I think, started with the F4. So, for me, the retro appearance is, at first, neither positive nor negative. Perhaps, however, a retro body might seem, by others, as more benign, resulting in less likelihood of negative attention and reactions? The hide-in-plain-sight urban camouflage aspect might be a good thing! :) I occasionally shoot with an FM3A, usually with a small prime. with its distinct retro appearance, but had never tried to notice people's reactions.

Perhaps I could get some retro-looking bifocal eyeglasses, dress more like a grandpa, and perhaps add a cane, to look even less threatening? :wink: I already wear progressive-lens bifocals, have an adult son, and sometimes my feet and/or bad knee do hurt a bit, so such an appearance would not be false. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:54 pm 
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You might be onto something. Leicas often draw less or a different kind of attention because they look old. In fact, many people think I am shooting film, so they don't even bother asking me to delete their picture (which never really happens anyway). The same may be true for Nikons Df, even though it is significantly larger. Let's wait and see till someone takes one of these out for some street shots!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:59 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:50 pm 
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That's great to hear Phil, looking forward to reading about your experiences with the camera.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:41 pm 
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I, too, would be very interested in Phil's opinions re the Df. Off-topic, I would also be interested in Bjorn's opinions re the M 240.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:55 am 
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If there's anything in particular you'd like to me share my opinion about, let me know in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=31319&start=0

My overall opinion is negative though. :wink:

Now, back to the Nikon Df!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:31 pm 
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Giugiaro design also Nikon F3. That goes back to early 80s. If I am not mistaken he is the one who started the distinctive red line now red triangle on Nikon cameras.
As for retro design for me its a real beauty, and yes a lot o people will not react when will see a photographer using this camera they may believe that he is not taking pictures of themselves. It is like using a Walkman (remember those portable cassette players with headphones) young people may not be familiar even with diskman they only know an mp3 player and a mobile phone for portable music.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:23 pm 
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I handled a Df, and have mixed feelings. The gripping areas for the right fingers and thumb are adequate, but the shutter button is not in a natural position for my right fingertip to reach it. While conditioning can mitigate this, I would prefer not to fight nature. When I handle a D4 or D800, my index finger finds the shutter button without conscious thought.

After handling the Df, I asked to handle a D800. Notably, the D800 seemed no heavier than the Df, because the more-full grip of the D800, plus its familiar dimensions, balanced the weight of the body. Both bodies had equivalent-sized prime lenses mounted; I reckon the D800's heft and larger grip would become more important with larger lenses. (While it is best to use the left hand to support the weight of the camera and lens, I shoot often in low light, when my left hand may be holding anything from a Speedlight to an LED torch to a snake stick.)

It would be nice to have a Df, especially for its D4 sensor in a smaller form factor, but its ergonomics relegate it to a relatively lower position on my wish list than the D800E, at least until that wonderful D4 sensor becomes more of a priority.

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