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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:10 pm 
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Hi wm,

Leica have been careful to avoid direct competition with the other major players, rebranded Panasonic cameras excepted, and I don't think this is an accident. Maybe they are the mountain gorilla's of the camera world? So long as they stick to an ecosystem that the other apes find difficult to survive in they'll do well enough. Arguably the R-system was proof that trying to compete outside that ecosystem is a mistake. And the guys and gals that shoot with the M-system wouldn't want things any other way. It's not as though they have never shot with anything other than Leica. The reverse is true so they choose Leica because they want to despite the price.

Long live Leica. 8)

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:25 am 
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Gonna try seeing the seals at Donna Nook... first time there, but unsure about access. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-li ... e-24872049

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:11 am 
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Hope you manage to get close enough to make the trip worthwhile, popo. Also hope the weather is kind for you.

Depending on your length of stay & whether you want to visit anywhere else (or even interested in birds?) RSPB Bempton, near Bridlington, can be a good day out. Also the area around Flamborough for land/sea scapes.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:09 pm 
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I suspect they've had trouble with people on the beech getting in the way of seals, hence they want to discourage it. But I get the impression they do not forbid it outright so should still be possible to do so. Of course we have to act responsibly when near wildlife, so I hope to get something. Have a selection on longer focal lengths so I wont need to get too close, although I have seen stories in the past where the seals approached photographers if they lie down and keep still long enough.

Will have two useful days in the area, mainly to just increase the chances in case weather is bad.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:49 am 
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Regarding Leica, from the previous page, I think Leica is doing just fine as a boutique manufacturer. The mass market is not their concern, and they could go broke trying to compete in it. I imagine that Maybach or Ferrari could also go broke trying to compete with Chevrolet.

Regarding seals, I think I wish I could photograph seals without having to travel nearly 2000 miles to do so! Dolphins are the only marine mammal I can hope to see along the Texas coast, though our brown water is not very photogenic.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:44 pm 
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Now I remember why I don't do much truly "wild" wildlife... been reading up on the seals all day before I set off tomorrow. In short, the tides are wrong for this visit (which may help keep hard core visitor numbers down), but there's a lot of debate on going on the beech itself. There is a risk of disturbance of the seals and there's a likely case of a few bad apples ruining it. So I've decided to use the official viewing area only. Slightly different kit strategy, can break out the big guns without breaking my back! Chance of air photography too. RAF uses the area for bombing practice, which would absolutely prohibit access to the beach anyway.

I had a 2nd day available there, and will instead use that to visit a zoo on the way home. I can't say no to big cats.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:42 am 
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Hi Bob, RexGig
I honestly hope that Leica does live long and prosper. I'm still putting pennies aside in case I do decide to take the plunge because their approach, simple but well engineered, appeals to me. I just felt that they may well have lost customers because they have given people the chance to try other products. It's almost as if they were rushed into their announcement because they knew about the forthcoming D600 and 6D. Now there are even more compact full frame choices and still Leica's 15-month-old baby isn't widely available. I don't think full frame is ever going to be mass market but sellers still have to compete for available custom, even at high level. You will shortly be able to buy two Nikon Df cameras for the same money. Unless you live in the UK, where you would be forced to add two 50mm f1.8 lenses to the 50mm you almost certainly already have. So Nikon isn't exactly a marketing paragon either.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:48 pm 
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Just learned that a photo book I bought two years ago has sextupled (6x) in value!
I got a new copy of Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook in May 2011 for just under 32 GBP, and it's now going for around 200 GBP (!). I wonder what it will be worth in five years time...

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Perhaps enough for an M240 Bjorn!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:04 am 
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No thanks. I'd get a Monochrom instead, or an analog model such as an M6. Plus, of course, there's about €10,000 worth of photography books on my Amazon wish list.

EDIT: Actually, based on the cheapest second hand books available, I'm already at €15,000 on that wish list. It will take decades before I can collect all those books...

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:20 am 
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I am thinking about retirement from my present job, as soon as early or middle 2014. While my age is only 52 years, 30 years of night shift police patrol is detrimental to one's health. This would mean an end of my evidentary photography, but more time, of course, for shooting subjects of my choice.

As a bonus, I would be able to withdraw a reasonable amount from tax-deferred savings, and use a modest amount of that to purchase a nice lens or body. Photography is my "exit strategy" from policing, whether or not I plan to ever earn money by shooting photos, so I can justify, in my mind, a nice lens or body much more than something like a sporty automobile.

Actually, I could continue evidentiary photography, if I wished, with a local search-and-recovery dog group, for whom my wife is a forensic advisor, and used to be a dog handler. I could justify something like a D4 acquisition for this photography.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:52 am 
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RexGig, after 30 years of working nights in the low light, you must have eyes like a bush-baby! :shock: :lol:

You are obviously at one of those transitional times in life, that we all reach periodically, when we have to re assess what we are doing.
Work is just work and a means to an end....paying bills etc. but obviously something we all prefer to enjoy whenever possible, but if there are other avenues that appeal & it's possible to pursue them, I strongly believe in taking the leap.

None of us know when that time will come, when those decisions are no longer ours & we are unable to make those changes, so it's important to follow your heart while you can.


A nice D4 would definitely help cushion the retirement aspect for me btw! :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:28 am 
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Thanks, oldCarlos! :)

Once upon a time, I did have quite good night vision; notably better than that of many of my colleagues. Oh, if only I could have kept that gift further into middle age! One reason I became more serious about photography, a few years go, is because a camera can now "see" better than my eyes. This is especially true, for me, with a Nikon F6. :)

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I should wear my glasses much more than I do, especially while on the PC, but I'm trying to resist as long as possible :| much to my moneyboss's amusement when she sees me squinting my eyes at the screen. :lol:

As the Borg said....."Resistance is futile!" :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:52 am 
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"Today is a GOOD day to die!" :wink:

While best known as a Klingon saying, due to Star Trek popularity, I believe it was borrowed from a Native American warrior, perhaps Chief Crazy Horse, a statement on the eve, or at the beginning, of a great battle. (My US history knowledge is a bit rusty.)

Tonight, as I prepare by photography equipment, and other gear, for another night of police patrol duty in the big city, on Christmas Eve, knowing that this is high season for drivers impaired by alcohol, and a peak time for emotional disturbance, being able to say the above quote, with a positive outlook, is a good thing.

For all who must be "on watch" tonight, whether public servants, warriors, or private citizens, be safe and well!

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