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Now that Photoshop will be "rental only" in the future ...
Poll ended at Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:44 am
I already use a subscription/cloud version of Photoshop 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I'll take out a subscription as soon as the new version is available in the summer 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I plan to take out a subscription next year 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Now that Photoshop can be rented I can finally afford it 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I'll upgrade to CS6 and stick with it for the foreseeable future 9%  9%  [ 1 ]
I already have CS6 so I'll stick with it for the foreseeable future 9%  9%  [ 1 ]
I'll stick with my current (pre CS6) version for the foreseeable future 9%  9%  [ 1 ]
I'll stick with my current version and actively look for an alternative to Photoshop 73%  73%  [ 8 ]
Total votes : 11
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:55 am 
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Hi folks,

Early days but the voting is weighting towards the bottom (not good for Adobe) options. Keep those votes coming!

Another take on the "Un-Subscribe Problem" can be found here. Somehow I doubt Adobe will grant the "perpetual licence but no more updates" option for long term subscribers who wish to stop subscribing but I applaud the sentiment.

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:17 pm 
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I'm kicking around the idea of PhaseOne's CaptureOne v7. Looks like it has the same type of functions as Lightroom, just don't know which is better. I've read a few reviews of regular users that say it is outstanding. Just hard to download anything here in Afghanistan to test. The big thing I would miss from Photoshop are the great healing tools. Lightroom's spot removal is good but not designed for something like removing a stray hair.

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:32 pm 
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keystrokesuk wrote:
No quite as many features as Photoshop but Apple have Aperture http://www.apple.com/aperture/

Thanks, but my understanding is that Aperture is more of a substitute for Lightroom (which I don't need quite yet; although there is talk of a cloud photography bundle with Photoshop and Lightroom), not Photoshop.

And as long as I'm posting, another drawback of the cloud model is that you will be forced to upgrade whether you want to or not. Windows 8 or iTunes 11, anyone?

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:46 am 
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Hi folks,

I don't often link to DPR but they have seized the moment and have written an article entitled 10 Photo Editing Programs (that aren't Photoshop).

CS6 still works for me, and probably will continue to do so for a fair few years now, but it's nice to keep an eye on the alternatives.

Bob.

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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 5:26 am 
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Thanks Bob Andersson, that was a good review. I went further on their site and read a good comparison between Lightroom, CaptureOne, and DXO. Then :lol: I read some new features in Lightroom 5 that you can now "paint" with the spot-heal brush. Between all of this reading, it may cement me into Lightroom 5...as long as Lightroom is not added into the same subscription service. I've really found that I do 95% of my work in Lightroom anyway...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:57 am 
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Hi folks,

No official announcement yet from Adobe but Photo Rumors is suggesting (link) that Adobe is considering reducing the price of a Photoshop licence to $9.99 per month. They also suggest that they would "promise to continually update CS6 to support future file and camera types".

Now, on the face of it that's good and tempting news. That price is pretty much in line with what I used to pay as I upgraded from one version to another (I sometimes missed versions) but the promise that CS6 will support future file types can't be taken at face value. For complex PSD files which include lots of adjustment layers how would CS6 cope when faced with an adjustment layer which required functionality introduced after CS6 was coded? Can't be done, IMHO, so I don't think the community should blink yet. More relevant would be a promise from Adobe that those who have subscribed to Photoshop or Creative Suite should, after a suitable interval, qualify for a "read only" version of the product so that, should they no longer be in a position to subscribe, they can still fully render their work.

I'd still prefer the old perpetual licence deal but that isn't likely to happen now and if the price does come down to $10 a month I don't think many Photoshop users would ever be discontinuing their subscription but, that being the case, the cost to Adobe of offering that extra safeguard of access to one's data should be down in the noise level.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:51 am 
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Hi folks,

It seems that enough of us have held out to encourage Adobe to relent on its "cloud" subscription pricing. From this blog:

    Today at the Photoshop World trade show in Las Vegas, Adobe introduced a breakthrough program for photographers
    who want to access the latest Adobe digital imaging technology through Creative Cloud: Photoshop CC, Lightroom 5,
    Behance ProSite and 20GB of storage for $9.99 per month.

    To qualify you need to own Photoshop CS3 or later and sign up for a year membership.

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    This is a limited time offer. To get more details, see what Winston Hendrickson, our vice president of Products has to say here.
    Visit our FAQ to learn more and follow Photoshop on Facebook, Twitter and Google+ to join the conversation and find out when the offer goes live.

I still have misgivings about loss of access to layered PSD files if a subscription lapses but at £8.57 per month I think I'll bite... 8)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:45 am 
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If they offered it at that price with no upgrade requirement even I might have bitten. Would be even better if they de-cluttered the bundle, just give me PS for as little as possible!

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Ironically, because I'm planning to switch from Premiere (actually the full CS5 suite) on Windows to FCP X on Mac (waiting for the next Retina Macbook Pros to come out), I will probably go with the Photoshop/Lightroom bundle since it's my understanding that it will allow me to "crossgrade" from Windows to Mac.

So Adobe lost a full CS purchase in favor of $10/mo. - Mark


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Hi folks,

I was nearly tempted but I decided to stick with Photoshop CS6 and in the light of the story Adobe hack hits 2.9m users I'm glad I didn't move to Adobe's "cloud" offering. Bad enough that I've had to waste time resetting my Adobe ID password but as I don't subscribe to Adobe's new rental software scheme Adobe shouldn't have retained my credit card details and even if they did I'm pretty sure they've expired since my last purchase. What a pain. :evil:

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