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 Post subject: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:13 pm 
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Good Day people! I would like your opinion as to which of these cameras should be my first DSLR and why!

I already know what i need to know about sensor lenses aperture focal lengths etc.

So here are my choices 650D/700D (both pretty much the same), the future 70D following link is what it may be like http://www.canonrumors.com/2013/04/a...-info-cr1-cr2/ next link shows canon reconsiders its senor http://www.canonrumors.com/2013/04/2...d-mark-ii-cr1/

or the 7D (or what ever will replace it this year)

Which of these do you think I should get and why, I cant buy any of these till the end of the year when I save anyway!


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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:33 pm 
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What do you want to do? Is there a budget?

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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:37 pm 
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I know what lens I want and what I want to take pics of which is why I chose the lens!

I know the 7d mark 2 will cost about $2,000USD I want a strong bodied camera with better AF and other dslr features that will last me some years, I know the 7d mk2 (when released) will be a good option, and yes that price is too steep, i have yet to know yet the full features of the 70d all i know is whats on the www.canonrumors.com websites I posted here.


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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:42 am 
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What do you want to take pictures of?

In some ways the 7D is more complete despite its age but you could be paying a lot of money for a sledgehammer to crack a nut when the 650D or 700D would be perfectly adequate.

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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:00 pm 
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I want portraits, landscapes full figure people, stationary and moving objects!!!

There may be times too when i want to take pics of fast moving people and objects in sports and other safe environments, fast moving wild life, where I come from there are a lot of bush animals that move fast enough, frogs, birds, wild rodents!!


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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:10 pm 
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Depending on how good your tracking and panning skills are, the 650D/700D may be good enough though the 7D will likely offer a better hit rate in terms of AF accuracy on fast moving objects.

However, you may find the articulated screen of the 650D/700D more beneficial than the 7D's superior AF (through the viewfinder) if there's a strong likelihood that you'd be shooting from awkward angles.

You need to weigh up the advantages that each offers or perhaps more sensibly, which camera's drawback you can live with the most e.g. can you live with the 7D's lack of an articulated screen despite its higher price more than you can live with the 650D's generally inferior AF through the viewfinder or vice versa?

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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:56 pm 
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I was thinking that screen thing is useful, over all I want a camera with features that make it easy to take pictures, for me it wont make sense looking at cameras now as I cant afford any if them even the Canon T3i.

By the time I save to buy the the camera and lens I want which is no less than the Canon 650D with the Canon efs 15-85mm lens, the Canon 70D and the Canon 7D mk2 will be released and those are cameras I look forward to.

What I want in a cam is not just image quality, and features to make it easy to take pictures, I want "DURABILITY" some thing I wont get in a "budget" DSLR, I dont want to buy a cheap camera then upgrade later, overall that is a waste of money for me.

As someone mentioned on another forum (which I posted a topic of this name at the same time) I should buy a good cam so I dont have to upgrade, which for me is the reason I considered more expensive cameras in the first place!

The most I would spend on a good body and a good lens together may be $1600US


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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:31 pm 
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What do you consider to be durable and what do you consider to be a budget camera?

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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:40 pm 
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Well, the Rebel line is Canon's budget line, so theoretically the 700D is too a budget camera and thus doesnt suit your needs. But, my Canon 350D/ XT from 2004 (or 2005?) cost some $1200 back then but still lasts. Quite durable, isn't it? And yeah, it's hit Mother Earth several times unfortunately...

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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:43 pm 
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Ruben123 wrote:
Well, the Rebel line is Canon's budget line, so theoretically the 700D is too a budget camera and thus doesnt suit your needs. But, my Canon 350D/ XT from 2004 (or 2005?) cost some $1200 back then but still lasts. Quite durable, isn't it? And yeah, it's hit Mother Earth several times unfortunately...

Exactly the reasons behind my previous questions.

My 550D was at the top tier of Canon's budget range when I bought it and it's had its fair few knocks and bumps but is still perfectly intact despite that.

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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:39 pm 
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Re your lens choice, I'm not sure it will be fast enough for birds etc & you'll probably find you want a lot more reach.

I guess weather-sealing will be a priority in your gear?

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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:56 pm 
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oldcarlos and anyone else who knows for sure what is the lowest aperture do I need to capture wild life on sunny days and cloudy rainy days!


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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:02 pm 
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There isn't a lowest aperture for wildlife. You need to make the trade off between aperture (depth of field), shutter and ISO. I mostly use f/5.6, even f/8 if I need more depth of field. Sun or rain.

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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:26 pm 
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Another question, I know in good light aperture f2.8 gives a shallow dof meanin the foreground will be in focus and the background out of focus or vice/versa.

Is the dof deeper at f2.8 in low light allowing me to take foreground in focus and background in good focus?


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 Post subject: Re: MY NEW DSLR
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DoF is DoF... it doesn't matter what the light levels are. 200mm @ f/2.8 will be the same at ISO 6400 and 1/125th or ISO 100 at 1/4000th. The only thing that changes the effective DoF is changing the aperture, but apparent DoF can be increased by decreasing the focal length (zooming from 200 to 70, for example on a 70-200 f/2.8 zoom).

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