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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:26 am 
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Clear skies tonight if the forecast is good. The Triangulum Galaxy awaits - initially planning 7 x 1,000 second subs in each of red, green and blue plus 15 x 1,500 second Ha subs so this will take a few more clear nights. Always the optimist... :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:18 am 
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In English, Bob?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:24 pm 
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:lol: :lol:

In astrophotography "subs" is just shorthand for "sub-exposures", the point being that sets of subs can be added together ("stacked") to improve depth and reduce noise.

Ha is shorthand for Hydrogen-alpha which is explained here. Emission nebulae, often associated with areas of star formation, typically glow most strongly in Ha so imaging with an Ha filter means one can achieve a cleaner image of such nebulae.


Update: Astrophotography session scrubbed. Dew on the cooled CCD's window formed within 20 minutes of starting imaging - aargh! I have a hardware fix in mind (adding a valve to allow the injection of argon welding gas into the filter/camera housing) but that is better done when I have to disassemble to fit the new filters when they arrive.

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I got the opportunity today to try out a Canon 85 1.2, what a nice lens (but heavy!). I wish that Nikon improved on their 1.2 selection, I'd just about die for a Nikkor 50 1.2.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:54 am 
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I got the opportunity today to try out a Canon 85 1.2, what a nice lens (but heavy!). I wish that Nikon improved on their 1.2 selection, I'd just about die for a Nikkor 50 1.2.


one of my favorite lenses... its a beast isnt it? with very nice bokeh :D

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just entered International Loupe Awards 2012, wish me luck


oh and the spambots r back at it again... soo annoying!

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... oh and the spambots r back at it again... soo annoying!

Yeah, so annoying but your friendly Moderators step in and blow them away! :twisted:

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:01 pm 
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What am I thinking right now?

When there's 6 regular members + one clearly deranged Trinidadian currently posting on the site, my time has come to an end.

Adios everyone - it's been fun...


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:33 pm 
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sorry to hear that dubaiphil. I too have found the site to be dwindling in regards to people posting. Not sure if it is the time of year or what but I believe that part of it is just the natural evolution of this type of site.... I think most information has been covered so for most people they can log on, find their answers without even asking and leave... I say this because there seems to be a lot less people asking questions than there were a few years ago when I first joined. So really the only time anyone seems to post now is if they are discussing a new technique or new gear as most other material has already been covered multiple times.

What I am thinking right now.. and I speek only for myself... is that I wish people would share more of their own work within these forums. I know personally I loved the days when there were 5 or 6 of us regulars sharing our wildlife experiences and pictures of them here. I was actually excited to log in and see what other people had experienced on their latest outing and if they had come up with new tactics regarding wildlife photography... LMAO I still remember the day that KPR and I started discussing the fact that raptors most of the time deficate just before taking off so if you noticed this be ready with camera in hand as you were about to get a great take-off sequence. I still log in every day hoping to see posts and pics within the wildlife forum especially so that I can see what others are doing and more importantly what wildlife exists in other areas of the world and of course most importantly to see if anyone has come up with a new technique as a lot of these posts get my heart pumping and make me want to get out again to see what new things I can find.

In the mean time Im happy sharing my world with others knowig that some at least find inspiration within my work and hoping that maybe just a few will start sharing their work for all the reasons mentioned above. I love nature and sharing the wildlife in my neck of the woods with others through my images but just as importantly I love seeing others' pictures of wildlife as it inspires me yes in regards to photography of course but more importantly in regards to the world we all live in and the beauty within it that I may never have the chance to see except through the eyes and lenses of others.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:23 pm 
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Should we do another decemberfest?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:32 pm 
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The number of active regulars has fallen, but I think that's a shift in the way of the net. Gordon seems more active on Google+, but I'm not so I'm largely out of the loop there.

I'm still doing wildlife, where deviantArt is still my main posting site although both mine and others seem to be dropping also... and for less "arty" photos I just spam them on my personal facebook.

So I guess, on this forum, there isn't much left for me. But I still drop in regularly. My main interest right now is astrophotography, where only Bob and Greg are active and they're also on other forums dedicated to the subject.

Not sure if Decemberfest will help much, but I am a half empty kinda thinker anyway. Even the monthly assignments seem to be less active.

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Hi Phil,

I'm sorry too. All I can offer is the hope that it will be Au Revoir rather than Adios and that you will find value here again in a few months as the active forum membership refreshes itself.

I also think Wolfsong's analysis is pretty much spot on. It's a trend I first flagged up over three years ago for discussion in the private (Mods + Gordon) area of the forum and despite that conversation having remained active all that time we've not found any way to reverse the decline you mention. Personally I also think that we, in common with other forums, have lost out to the social networking sites in attracting members who are just getting into photography.

Do look in from time to time. I've scaled back my own activity on a couple of specialist astrophotography forums as I've found sites more appropriate to my needs but I find it still worth logging on occasionally. Same deal on the CameraLabs forum as my photographic interest has moved skywards but i still log on most days, not only to deal with the spam but also to see what's new even though I post much less often than I used to. :(

All the best.

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Sorry to hear that dubaiphil :(
I have not been as long in these forums as any of you guys that have been here for over 2 years, I've been like half a year only so I really don't have much clue about how it was before. I do enjoy the work that gets posted here, even if it's scarce: Wolfsong's wildlife shots, Bob, cybermystic and popo's astrophotography work (even if I don't quite understand it), dubaiphil's portraits and cityscapes, AdamP's travel photos, darthkindy's grunge HDR shots, robbon44's landscapes, Wee Beastie's macro shots, and many other contributors which I apologize for not including them. I know that I'm not really a contributor, I just hang around here commenting on the amazing work that you guys do, but it's for a reason, my shots aren't as good as any of you guy's shots.
Anyways, I do think that the forums are lacking content, but instead of just fleeing, you could help to keep sharing your work and maybe spreading the word to others that these forums are here and I think we should invite others to start sharing their work here.
It's a small community, but it's a nice one :)
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Should we do another decemberfest?

It would be nice, but we need to convince everyone to enter it, I'll be willing to do it :)

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It is a small community but I like it, as pierovera says.

I like just popping in posting pics and seeing what others are doing, I get great advice and ideas from here.

It's fine.

Sorry to see you go phil, I love your B&W work.

Pop in and post another camel pic or two when you can, it costs nothing.

Cheers

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the above got me thinking again but it got me thinking asbout something I have thrown around in my head several times in the past...

Cameralabs is first and foremost a place for ppl to learn and ask questions about photography and we have all come to accept that and appreciate the site for what it is... many of us learned a lot here over the years and are very appreciative for the efforts Gordon and the mods have put in to keep the site fresh and active...

I have however pondered what would happen if cameralabs were to include a new section and call it say.... "share your world" ... nothing about tips or techniques or even critisizm... just a place where photographers could share their world through their lenses with others of like mind. the way I envision it is to have ppl post in a specific way where the post will not go through unless all fields are filled in. And by fields I mean 1) country 2)state/province 3) city 4) location name ei: lake, mountain, national park.. you get the idea 5) landscape, portrait, wildlife, urban, street (whatever type of photography the pics would fall under)... the first 2 or 3 and 5 would be manditory to fill in while 3 and 4 would be desired but optional. Posts would be listed as they are now in any specific forum on the site but with the above information subgroupings based on country and province/state and style would also be included so if someone were to log in they could go to a global map in that section and click on any country or even state and they would get a listing of all posts related to that country or state they are interested in. They could then click on the style to narrow down their search even more if so desired.

To me this would add a larger social aspect to the site which formally really doesnt have a place here right now. It would allow photographers and others alike to learn about areas of interest through the eyes of other photographers. It would allow photographers of all levels to post pics in a social atmosphere without any negative feedback and strickly for social reasons. Finally it would allow other photographers to potentially learn about an area they are interested in visiting from the perspective of other photographers maybe giving them ideas on where to visit or some of the thigns worth shooting where they are planning to go. And of course it would hopefully be inspirational to many out there.

There may well be something out there like this right now but if there is I am not aware of it... I also believe it would expand the membership of cameralabs viewers and activity on the forums as it is not qabout teaching, tips, or technique but about sharing your world. For me that would be a natural extension of what exists here already.

Maybe Gordon and the mods already feel ppl can post these types of things here already and god knows that is usually the perspective I take on my wildlife posts.. that being to share my world with others here... but the different forums all state in their subtitles, in one form or another, "share your tips and techniques here" which may have some ppl thinking twice about just posting from a social perspective.

ANyways.. there I go blabbing my face off again... its just an idea I have thrown around several times over the years ... no idea how hard it would be to design something like that or if it is even possible... all I know is that the idea of having a social place for photographers from around the world to share their world with others of like mind is very intreging to me and something I would follow with great interest.

I believe cameralabs as it exists right now is an amazing site sharing much needed photography advise to ppl seeking this information... what I especially love about it is that most of this information and most of the questions answered in these forums comes from ppl like you and me.. down to earth ppl who work ofr a living and take pictures with the same gear that most of the rest of us use... not some guy who is out of touch with the reality of what the vast magority of photographer shoot with. It is and will be for the foreseeable future one, if not the, best site for the average photographer to go to if they have any questions about photography and this makes it a site I will stick with for a long time to come... adding a bigger, or more distinct, social aspect may not however be a bad idea

PS: Popo.. post a pic of a duck will ya??? :twisted:

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