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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:52 am 
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atm I use a 300mm F2.8 + 1.7TC on the D7000 for bird/wildlife shots. This gives me equivalent to 500mm, but still tend to need to crop a fair bit, especially for birds.

Would I still need a cropped frame sensor, in a new camera, or would the D800 or even the D600 produce the same quality pics with even more severe cropping?

I guess what i'm asking is, would FX equal or better DX? (for me)

Also, IF, an updated D7000 was released with say 24MP, would the answer be different?

I'd love a longer lens btw, but that's out of the question! :roll:

Thanks in advance.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:07 am 
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Well seeing as a D5200 has been announced with 24Mp, I'd think there may be a D7100 around the corner.

But then again there's always something around the corner!

Are you asked to be talked out of going Full Frame?!?!?!?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:09 am 
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Rather than going purely for the techie answer - try a more balanced answer from users in the field.....:

http://www.nikoncafe.com/vforums/showthread.php?t=347804


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:40 am 
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Yeah there is ALWAYS summat new round the corner, that's for sure! :lol: ££££££'s

No i'm not talking myself into FF..... or out of DX really, I just wondered about potential pic quality compared on both.
I hate changing lenses while out shooting & keep the 300mm + TC on the D7000 all the time.
(I do have a D700 though, which mainly has the 16-85 attached in my bag too)

It's more a case of a replacement to my D7000 (which I like) Do I get another/D7100? or would FF/D600 be as good or better? :?

Thanks Phil. 8)

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:33 am 
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Ah - free registration and a wealth of Nikon knowledge and users - well worth it!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:53 pm 
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oldCarlos: Currently a 24MP DX sensor has a higher pixel-density than a 36MP FF. So theoretically the D3200/D5200 or rumored D7200 have an advantage regarding reach.
The question is: when do you start to see the lens limiting resolution? In the center of the image circle quality lenses should still perform good enough to gainn from the higher pixel-density. But put a TC on them, I don't know.
My otherwise superb Nikon AF-S 70-200/2.8VRii clearly showed its limits with a 1.7xTC on my 12MP D300.
So it all depends...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:48 pm 
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I sort of guessed there wouldn't be a straight answer re FF Vs Crop. :wink:

Thanks Thomas 8)

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A little more specific:
- A D700 has a DX-crop of 5.3MP
- A D600 has a DX-crop of 10.6MP
- A D800 has a DX-crop of 16MP (equivalent to a D7000)
So a 12MP FX-body is not really for those who like to shoot birds, a D600 body is closer, a D800 is equivalent to a D7000 so this is really pretty good already.
But on a given high quality fixed prime and at a given working distance a 24MP DX sensor (equivalent pixel-density of 54 MP FX-sensor) can give you the highest resolution shots.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:21 pm 
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I did try out my D700, but wasn't too impressed with the results. It looks like i'll stick with DX for birding & wait to see if they bring out a new/updated D7000 in the next couple of months.

Many thanks again Thomas. 8)

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