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http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-is- ... de-market/

An interesting chart at link above, and if you click through to the source you can see the full image too.

It shows what Sony thinks is its market share across geographical regions, with an overall 41% share worldwide. They don't name their competitors, but A and B are likely to be the microFourThirds duo, who combined give 39%.

Where are the rest? Hard to say since they only list the top 3 per region. E are 2nd in Korea so I'd guess that's local company Samsung.

I'm lost as to who might C and D be... who's unaccounted for? Nikon is likely one of them. Fuji perhaps, if they sold enough to make the radar. Leica getting a top 3 might be a bit challenging. That leaves... Pentax?


Also more charts there. As % of interchangeable lens cameras, they claim mirrorless make up 18% in Europe, compared to up to 50% in Japan, with a worldwide average of 23%.

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I'm surprised that Canon isn't included yet, I thought the Canon EOS M was already released.

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The M has been announced, but nowhere near a shop yet. Even if it was, it might be too early to enter the figures anyway.

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Oh right, I didn't know that
By the way, I think that Canon would not be really good in the figures just yet, but just give it a year or so and I think they can go up in market shares by quite a lot.

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They are starting really late compared to everyone else... maybe too late it'll be harder to gain traction.

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Tinies: Sony HX9V.

But perhaps as a lower end mirrorless camera it might be good, but they'd have to lower the price. Anyways, they're quite behind in many things compared to, for example, Sony's NEX series or Fuji's mirrorless cameras, not to mention Leica's M camera.

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No one is behind Leica. All of their interesting camera's are very expensive and severely hampered in technology, but it's enough to fuel the niche that many photographers like.

Sony did deliver compact sized cameras with a large 1.5 crop image-sensor, very clever indeed. And their newest installment further improves on the usability that actually interests DSLR photographers as well.
However I do not think one is best nor that the others are far behind or something like that. Both Olympus, Panasonic, Fuji and Samsung have their own strong points or are just as good overall.

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though Leica do make some "EPIC" lenses... love their rangefinders too

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All of the companies have decent lenses in their line up, even though Leica really has the biggest selection which are optically amazing on a whole. However they are hyper expensive and unpractical though :/
Even though my Zeiss is my favorite lens I often use an AF lens instead if I want to take pictures at a higher rate with a higher focus accuracy, and I am sure many feel the same way.

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MF is unpractical for some. But once its on a rangefinder its very easy... I love it! I prefer this to AF

though Zeiss do make amazing lenses for Leica M as well.. like the Biogon 35mm

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I agree! Personally, I prefer MF over AF most of the times, but because I own a superzoom camera and the MF is really unintuitive and fiddly, I don't use it much, but whenever I borrow a DSLR, I always use MF

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I have never tried a rangefinder like the ones Leica makes, only the Fuji X100, and can't say I enjoyed it :p

However, I am sure MF is somewhat easier on a Leica than most DSLR's, as you have a very helpful "overlay" via the prism which aids you to focus properly.
There is a similar thing on DSLR's, but a red flash from the focus confirmation is not even nearly as helpful.
I think it comes down to three things focus-consistency, scenario and speed. AF in most cases is far faster than humans and will deliver overall a higher amount of successful pictures.

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I agree, but you can see it fail constantly in situations with low contrast or poor lighting, whereas the human eye can easily help to focus in this situations and a lot faster. Also, where it might come in handy is when you are using live view in a DSLR (at least that's the name given for Canon EOS cameras, I'm not sure about other brands), contrast-based focus is really poor and MF, especially when shooting video, is the best option.

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Yes, low light scenarios is an issue, MF can be absolutely be a savior there.

Live view and video are tied together in a knot where a situation arises that most DSLR's are not designed for. You see, contrast-detection AF is not bad in any way, it can be almost as fast as the phase-detection system, however no DSLR is really designed for Video, and not one yet has been delivered with a proper contrast-detection system. Which is nothing more than a bit of programming hardware-accelerated by the onboard FPGA. Unless we see to Sony, where they have employed a semi transparent mirror so you can have phase detection AF while doing video.
That said, both contrast and phase need a contrast'y situation to work, the next time you try a DSLR, put it against any flat uniformly colored surface and see if you get focus lock
I don't know about you, but I find DSLR's very awkward to do video with while properly focusing, it's fun for short amount of time if there is not much focus travel, however as video-camera, no way. It is not practical, fast AF here would be a savior.

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As I do not own a DSLR and my only experience with them is whenever I've borrowed one, I really don't shoot too much video, maybe only a couple minutes and that's it. Contrast-based AF in DSLRs isn't as good as in camera with only contrast-based AF, for example my camera, and I've noticed the difference when shooting video. I really don't use MF in my camera as it can be quite cumbersome, and also AF in video is quite good, it doesn't go hunting as it does in DSLRs and in most occasions, subjects are pin-sharp. Despite this, phase-detection AF is a lot quicker than contrast-based AF, and I've tested it side by side with my camera and a Canon 5D and the 5D is a ton faster than my camera (it's a Canon PowerShot SX20 IS, by the way).

Just a quick note here, I think we've gone a little deviated from the thread's theme

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