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 Post subject: Return of the Stars!
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:53 pm 
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Unbelievable but we might actually get a clear moonless night here in the south of England tonight. The last time I was able to fire up my astrophotography kit for some deep sky work was May 30th, some 7½ weeks ago! :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Return of the Stars!
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:02 pm 
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If we're not jinxing it right now, I just fired up three astro forecasts. Two say clear skies for the next 3 days, one indicting cloud on Tuesday... one regular forecasts says some cloud Monday but clear otherwise 1st half of the week. Outside right now... mostly clear.

I wonder if it's dark enough for me to have another go at narrowband cygnus? That reminds me, I'm going to break the weather again as I've some mounting accessories on my shopping list...

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 Post subject: Re: Return of the Stars!
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Hi popo,

Best of luck. I think (hope) I've finally captured the last subs I needed for my North America nebula mosaic. That allows me to move on and I've just had a look at my first ever sub (1,000 seconds with a red filter) of M31 where I'll be spending some time over the next few clear nights. It just about fits in the frame (a bit tight but I really don't want to do another mosaic for a while) and, even better, Maxim DL seems to be telling me that at f/7 I'm only saturating the central dozen or so (area, not linear) pixels which means I won't have to add any 200 second subs to recover detail in the core. Initial plan is for 5 x 1,000 seconds in each of R, G and B and then a sequence of 15 x 1,500 second subs in Hα but any of those numbers might have to be increased if I feel I'd like deeper and/or cleaner data. What fun. :)

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P.S. Yeah, I know: it's been done to death over the years but, crucially so far as personal satisfaction is concerned, not by me!!! 8)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:09 am 
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Just a sneak preview. Here's the result of some very quick and dirty processing of the 5 x 1,000 second subs of M31 I captured last night using a red filter, uncropped except for a 48 pixel clip along each edge and downsized by a factor of four to fit the forum:

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Maybe more depth needed (more subs) and there's certainly a more detail in the image than this morning's processing revealed (too nice a day to spend 'pooting). I also captured a couple of 1,000 second subs with the blue filter before light stopped play last night and a quick inspection showed there's good information there. Maybe by the time I've got full set of 5 x 1,000 second subs in R, G and B and combined them to create a luminance channel I'll have enough depth. Hope so!

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 Post subject: Re: Return of the Stars!
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very impressive Bob. I gotta setup my guiding scope so I can do the same.

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 Post subject: Re: Return of the Stars!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:16 pm 
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How small is M13??? I need a bigger lens on this one... reverted to doing widefield Cygnus in OIII this time round.

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Hi popo,

For comparison with M31 check out my thread Not just any M13, it's my first M13. The first image in that thread is uncropped as is the M31 image above. The sensor FoV is almost exactly two degrees.

M31 captures have just restarted. Should complete the blue and green subs tonight and make a significant dent in the Hα mountain!

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 Post subject: Re: Return of the Stars!
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Hmm... one to revisit when I get the guided mount then! It looked so big in the scope eyepiece last night though, even if it was nothing more than a faint fuzzy blob.

Integrating my M13 subs now... got the kit outside still grabbing some random OIII Cygnus, North America nebula is visible already. Should I call it NAN from now to keep things short?

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Some day I need to find out what that red glow is... still suspect it's IR.

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 Post subject: Re: Return of the Stars!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:27 pm 
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Quick process before bed time! 18x4m unmodified 600D, Astronomik OIII-CCD filter. Zeiss 50mm makro at f/2. Slight crop of edges then resized.

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Crop from above resized 50%.

The faint lines you might be able to see going almost horizontally in the crop are probably noise that wasn't rejected. I didn't use darks or anything.

I'll dig up the old Ha data tomorrow for comparison... and if it's clear again, I'll have another go with SII.

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 Post subject: Re: Return of the Stars!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:24 pm 
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Clear again so a third great night in a row. Tonight is exclusively H-alpha night and I should squeeze 8 x 1,500 second subs of M31 before dawn. Another sleepless night. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Return of the Stars!
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I just packed up, getting 8x2m Ha and 18x2m SII to add to yesterday's 18x2m of OIII (not 4m subs as I incorrectly wrote). I got some fresh Ha data as I noticed I didn't have previous data in this field of view before. I only had 35mm and 135mm, whereas this set is ending up at 50mm... going for a quick process before bed. As and when we get more clear nights I can try adding to it then.

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 Post subject: Re: Return of the Stars!
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Around Cygnus by Crestie Crazy, on Flickr

Here's the quick process of wide shot around Cygnus in Hubble palette. It's pretty damn noisy but I need more data to fix that... so will revisit again later.

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 Post subject: Re: Return of the Stars!
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popo wrote:
I need more data

The mantra of all astrophotographers!

Speaking of which, with the forecast for tonight looking less good, I thought I'd see how the 10 x 1,500 second Hα subs at f/7 of M31 I've captured over the last couple of nights stack up. I wasn't expecting too much having only looked at the uncorrected (bias/dark/flat) single image subs as they arrived in Maxim DL but having done a quick and dirty integration in PixInsight, with full calibration, I think I might have enough to work with. Quite noisy but the emission nebulae appear to be showing up although I won't really understand what I've caught until I can reprocess all the subs (R,G,B and Hα) together and do a detailed comparison before combining in a way which will make the best eye candy! Here's the result of just over four hours of Hα photon capturing, as before downsized by a factor of four:

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That said, a blink comparison, made a bit more difficult by the fact that the two preview images aren't aligned, with my "Red Preview" above shows that the Hα seems to be nicely following the gas and dust lanes rather than just mirroring the brighter red bits. Can't wait to see how this all integrates with the green and blue subs.

I love my hobby!

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 Post subject: Re: Return of the Stars!
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I also can't wait to see what it looks like all in. I did give myself a little preview kinda, but aligning and assigning the red and Ha output earlier to separate colour channels. Definitely interesting!

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Hmmm. Interesting-er and interesting-er. :lol:

I took a couple of hours out from enjoying the garden and registered and combined various sets of subs. The Hα result looks much like it does in the image above so I tried an idea I had last night. The problem is how to extract the emission nebulae from the bright background continuum contributed by millions of close by stars. It occurred to me that the spectral types of all those stars average out and that the green channel, with minimal contribution from Hβ and none at all from Hα might be useful. Cutting to the chase I used PixInsight's "PixelMath" functionality for the first time to produce a new image by subtracting the green image, reduced in intensity by a factor determined by trial and error of 15, from the Hα image. Here's the result, reduced in scale by a factor of four as usual:

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This is yet another quick and dirty tidy up in PhotoShop of the output and I can be less aggressive with the black clipping later on. There are still many stars, local to our own glalxy, to remove but they are easily spotted. What really pleases me is that the Hα emission nebulosity in M31 is now highlighting really well and, as an unexpected bonus, I'm also seeing hints of a spiral structure in what's left of the central bulge of M31. This is awesomely great entertainment and I find myself almost wishing for a rainy day so I can spend the necessary ten or twenty hours really trying to extract the most from the data I have. 8)

What fun!

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