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 Post subject: Wide angle ?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:31 pm 
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I'm just about to go on holiday to the cook isles and will be taking the mandatory sunset shots, beach views and some sky photography as well as standard family shots.

I have a canon 17-85 IS Usm lens which is great but i was wondering about getting a wider angle Len along the lines of 10-22mm ?

What are people's opinion of this option?

Is it worth it? Would I get much more from it ?

Also it's for use on my T2i - any issues with this?

Cheers in advance.

Rob

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 Post subject: Re: Wide angle ?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:43 pm 
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I really do like my 10-22mm EF-S, a truly useful lens, with quite good build quaility, but I do not have a 17-85mm, so it is difficult for me to say what you would be missing by not having the 10mm to 17mm zoom range. Keep in mind that ultra-wide images which try to "take it all in" can be empty and boring, so try to learn about using ultra-wides before the holiday. An ultra-wide is more for getting close to a subject, than trying to record an image of half the world, at distance, with one click. I am certainly not discouraging you from the 10-22mm!

Upon further reflection, compared to a kit zoom lens which starts at 18mm, with which I am familiar, I believe my 10-22mm is truly useful, though build quality and pride of ownership are part of that equation. Another lens I had considered, the 15-85mm, has an excellent reputation among members of this forum. 15mm, with the 1.6 crop factor, is equivalent in field-of-view to a 24mm on "full" frame. On a full-frame camera, 24mm is started to become really wide, though not what is generally termed ultra-wide. Ultra-wide-angle lenses are an acquired taste. If possible, perhaps try one that is borrowed, rented, or hired, before purchasing?

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 Post subject: Re: Wide angle ?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:00 am 
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First let me start by saying I have none of what we are talking about except the T2i :D But from my studying for future purchases I'll give you my opinion.

The super wides like to 10-22 take special learning and care to use. It is not something that a normal person can pickup and jump right into perfect pictures. It doesn't work like you expect. If you are truly considering it, I would rent it first.

Your 17-85, I have been told and read, is basically the 18-55 kit lens but goes out to 85. If you really want to consider a new wide lens, look at the 15-85. Gordon has told me a few times that the diff between 17 and 15 doesn't sound like a lot but at these low ends do make a lot of difference. Also, the image quality and build of the 15-85 is comparable to an L lens just without weather sealing.

My next purchase WILL be a 15-85 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Wide angle ?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:09 am 
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Hi mike

Yes agree with the 17-85 it's a really great lens. I have the older version.

http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/can ... is_usm_c16


I take a lot of landscape shots and generally end up stitching shots but having a dedicated super wide may be of use.

Just not sure about the pros and cons or whether it's really worth jumping to it. I like Rex comments about it being a truly useful lens. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Wide angle ?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:39 am 
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Oh I think it is useful also and it is on a list of wants but you may want to read this on how to use ultra-wides to give you an idea. This article helped me a lot
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/how-to-use-ultra-wide-lenses.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Wide angle ?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:33 pm 
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http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/how-to- ... lenses.htm

It is a great read. I got my sigma 10-20 and it is a lot of fun! Good luck!

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 Post subject: Re: Wide angle ?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:35 pm 
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HikingMike wrote:
Oh I think it is useful also and it is on a list of wants but you may want to read this on how to use ultra-wides to give you an idea. This article helped me a lot
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/how-to-use-ultra-wide-lenses.htm



LOL I was too late! Mine is the same link.

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 Post subject: Re: Wide angle ?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:28 pm 
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Hi thanks great link.

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