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Hi there guys, i am looking for lens that i can make some details with it.

Few things- it will be on canon 60D, so APS-C. It should be canon, i will buy sigma or tamron only if i will be desperate. Budget is 1300euros (or dollars) for primes, 2000 for zoom lens (thats because if i buy one prime, maybe i will need another). USM, or ultrasonic motors please.

I want it for fotoreports, so that is a huuge field of operations, but mostly something that is - around 15 metres away. For example - details of hand of guitarist on stage, smoking wheel of car that is racing, face expression of racers. My 15-85 is simply not enough for details, only if i come close, but for (for example) whole car it is enough.

I was about to get canon 70-200 F2.8L IS II, but after i tested it yeasterday (version one), i am disapointed of it, reach is not as long as i was hoping for (thank god i did not ordered one), so i am also considering some other glass - Canon EF 200mm f/2.8L II USM, CANON EF 300mm f/4.0 L IS USM.

I shoot mostly outdoor, but sometimes inside and thats why i think F4 is what i can get worst.

Trouble is - i dont really know what focal length i want because i can't test it, or can be 70-200 suitable for job like that? What you use mostly and are you satisfied with?

Thanks for any advices.

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Canon 60D + 15-85mm f3.5-5.6 IS, Canon 70-200 F2.8L IS II, Canon 430EXII, polarizing filter 72mm,
Canon AT-1, 50mm FD F1.8
Canon A430,

Personally what I use most is my 100-400mm - that range is enough for most things. But still the aperture...

But I don't really mind that as the IS is quite good and I even got shots at 1/25 sec @ 400mm quite sharp: https://picasaweb.google.com/1043396838 ... 9737096082

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Canon EOS 500D + Canon EOS 5D Mark III + Canon EOS 33v
Canon EF 24-105mm 4L IS USM + EF 100-400mm 4.5-5.6L IS USM + EF 100mm 2.8L Macro IS USM + Sigma 12-24mm 4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM + Canon Speedlite 580 EX II + Nissin Speedlite Di 466

How long is long enough? I'm thinking the 70-200 f/2.8 +1.4x extender gives ~100-280mm f/4 or +2x extender for ~140-400 f/5.6, leaving you more aperture flexibility on the wider end.

If you are willing to relax on the aperture requirement, then something like the 70-300L or 100-400L are flexible options.

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Canon DSLRs: 7D, 5D2, 1D, 600D, 450D full spectrum, 300D IR mod
Lenses: EF 35/2, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 135/2+SF, 28-80 V, 70-300L, 100-400L, TS-E 24/3.5L, MP-E 65, EF-S 15-85 IS
3rd party: Zeiss 2/50 makro, Samyang 8mm fisheye, Sigma 150 macro, 120-300 f/2.8 OS, Celestron 1325/13
Tinies: Sony HX9V.

There are a whole bunch of Field of View Calculators on the internet. Feel free to Google yourself, but for the sake of convenience, I just input the above criteria--1.6 CF, 15m--and 300mm FL into the Dimensional Field of View Calculator here:

http://www.tawbaware.com/maxlyons/calc.htm

And got:

FOV (horizontal) (feet/meters): 1m 12.5cm
FOV (vertical) (feet/meters): 0m 75cm

which would seem to me to be roughly what I would want for "smoking wheel of car that is racing, face expression of racers".

YMMV - Mark

Hi dingo27mobile,

As it's for a Canon I've moved the thread but left a "shadow" behind so the thread can be found from its old location. Third party lens discussion is welcome in this section when the recommendation is specifically for a Canon body.

Bob.

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Gitzo GT1541T, Arca-Swiss Z1 DP ball-head.
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For some of what you are after the aperture of 2.8 sounds like a necessity, but for range a 70-300 or 100-400.
Maybe consider a 100 macro 2.8 L - especially, if you think you might enjoy macro ( or 135 F2 ) and then 70-300 Tamron VC SP, for value for money.

But, like already mentioned the 70-200 is a good al rounder maybe budget in a 1.4 extender.

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Canon Powershot S95, Canon 6D,7D, 24-70 2.8 Tamron VC, Canon 15-85, Canon 85 1.8, Sigma 30 1.4, 50mm 1.8, Canon 100 2.8L Macro, Canon 70-300L +Kenko 1.4 Pro 300DGX, Canon 430EX II and RS 4 Classic

Thank you all, ...

Yes, i was also considering 100mm F2.8L IS new macro, but it might be little too short

I was also thinking about 100-400, but that pumping zoom is a thing that i don't want.

It seems 70-200 with extender will suit me best - but i am still not sure which combination i will choose, maybe f4 IS with 1.4 II extender will be a good start.

But i still have an eye on 300 f4 IS...

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I'm new to DSLR's, so please be patient and take my opinions with reserve. Thank you : ) Yes, i am Canon man.
Google + My picasa photos My 500px album
Canon 60D + 15-85mm f3.5-5.6 IS, Canon 70-200 F2.8L IS II, Canon 430EXII, polarizing filter 72mm,
Canon AT-1, 50mm FD F1.8
Canon A430,

That might be the sharpest solution. Maybe combined with a 1.4x extender.

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Canon EOS 500D + Canon EOS 5D Mark III + Canon EOS 33v
Canon EF 24-105mm 4L IS USM + EF 100-400mm 4.5-5.6L IS USM + EF 100mm 2.8L Macro IS USM + Sigma 12-24mm 4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM + Canon Speedlite 580 EX II + Nissin Speedlite Di 466

If you're thinking of 70-200/4+extender, you might consider the 70-300L instead since with the extender you'll be stuck at f/5.6. Going for a 70-200/2.8 will allow you to retain f/4 to 280mm.

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Canon DSLRs: 7D, 5D2, 1D, 600D, 450D full spectrum, 300D IR mod
Lenses: EF 35/2, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 135/2+SF, 28-80 V, 70-300L, 100-400L, TS-E 24/3.5L, MP-E 65, EF-S 15-85 IS
3rd party: Zeiss 2/50 makro, Samyang 8mm fisheye, Sigma 150 macro, 120-300 f/2.8 OS, Celestron 1325/13
Tinies: Sony HX9V.

If u want everything! (mean wide aperture and more mm ) then i thing u can consider sigma 120-300 F2.8 OS HSM
For that u need to stretch ur budget

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Nikon D800
Nikon AFS 50mm F1.8 G
Sigma APO 70-200 F2.8 EX DG OS HSM
Sony H50

This seems as best solution, still the most expensive one.

does somebody here own a 70-300 IS "L" ? It also seems a good choice (but that poor aperture ... )

i know i might sound (or feel) like pain in the butt, but i have only three months before i will (maybe, but it seems so) loose my job, so i have just one try (and one budget of 2000 euros) to purchase right lens

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I'm new to DSLR's, so please be patient and take my opinions with reserve. Thank you : ) Yes, i am Canon man.
Google + My picasa photos My 500px album
Canon 60D + 15-85mm f3.5-5.6 IS, Canon 70-200 F2.8L IS II, Canon 430EXII, polarizing filter 72mm,
Canon AT-1, 50mm FD F1.8
Canon A430,

I have the 70-300L. With modern IS and weather sealing, I consider it the lightweight alternative to the 100-400L. For my styles of shooting the aperture isn't a problem and I've always managed to compensate with moderate high ISO even in dull weather.

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Canon DSLRs: 7D, 5D2, 1D, 600D, 450D full spectrum, 300D IR mod
Lenses: EF 35/2, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 135/2+SF, 28-80 V, 70-300L, 100-400L, TS-E 24/3.5L, MP-E 65, EF-S 15-85 IS
3rd party: Zeiss 2/50 makro, Samyang 8mm fisheye, Sigma 150 macro, 120-300 f/2.8 OS, Celestron 1325/13
Tinies: Sony HX9V.