Free Shipping on ALL Products
camera reviewsbest cameraslens reviewsphotography tipscamera forumvideo toursphotography bookssupport me
It is currently Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:38 am

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:13 pm
Posts: 247
Location: Slovakia
Hi there guys, i am looking for lens that i can make some details with it.

Few things- it will be on canon 60D, so APS-C. It should be canon, i will buy sigma or tamron only if i will be desperate. Budget is 1300euros (or dollars) for primes, 2000 for zoom lens (thats because if i buy one prime, maybe i will need another). USM, or ultrasonic motors please.

I want it for fotoreports, so that is a huuge field of operations, but mostly something that is - around 15 metres away. For example - details of hand of guitarist on stage, smoking wheel of car that is racing, face expression of racers. My 15-85 is simply not enough for details, only if i come close, but for (for example) whole car it is enough.

I was about to get canon 70-200 F2.8L IS II, but after i tested it yeasterday (version one), i am disapointed of it, reach is not as long as i was hoping for (thank god i did not ordered one), so i am also considering some other glass - Canon EF 200mm f/2.8L II USM, CANON EF 300mm f/4.0 L IS USM.

I shoot mostly outdoor, but sometimes inside and thats why i think F4 is what i can get worst.

Trouble is - i dont really know what focal length i want because i can't test it, or can be 70-200 suitable for job like that? What you use mostly and are you satisfied with?

Thanks for any advices.

_________________
I'm new to DSLR's, so please be patient and take my opinions with reserve. Thank you : ) Yes, i am Canon man.
Image Google + Image My picasa photos Image My 500px album
Canon 60D + 15-85mm f3.5-5.6 IS, Canon 70-200 F2.8L IS II, Canon 430EXII, polarizing filter 72mm,
Canon AT-1, 50mm FD F1.8
Canon A430,


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:22 pm
Posts: 1310
Location: Speyer (Germany)
Personally what I use most is my 100-400mm - that range is enough for most things. But still the aperture...

But I don't really mind that as the IS is quite good and I even got shots at 1/25 sec @ 400mm quite sharp: https://picasaweb.google.com/1043396838 ... 9737096082

_________________
Canon EOS 500D + Canon EOS 5D Mark III + Canon EOS 33v
Canon EF 28-80mm 3.5-5.6 USM + EF 24-105mm 4L IS USM + EF 100-400mm 4.5-5.6L IS USM + EF 50mm 1.8 II + EF 100mm 2.8L Macro IS USM + Sigma 12-24mm 4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM + Canon Speedlite 580 EX II + Nissin Speedlite Di 466


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 25, 2008 12:48 pm
Posts: 8025
Location: UK
How long is long enough? I'm thinking the 70-200 f/2.8 +1.4x extender gives ~100-280mm f/4 or +2x extender for ~140-400 f/5.6, leaving you more aperture flexibility on the wider end.

If you are willing to relax on the aperture requirement, then something like the 70-300L or 100-400L are flexible options.

_________________
Canon DSLRs: 7D, 5D2, 1D, 600D, 450D full spectrum, 300D IR mod
Lenses: EF 35/2, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 135/2+SF, 28-80 V, 70-300L, 100-400L, TS-E 24/3.5L, MP-E 65, EF-S 15-85 IS
3rd party: Zeiss 2/50 makro, Samyang 8mm fisheye, Sigma 150 macro, 120-300 f/2.8 OS, Celestron 1325/13
Tinies: Sony HX9V.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:42 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:29 am
Posts: 712
dingo27mobile wrote:
it will be on canon 60D, so APS-C. (...)

... something that is - around 15 metres away. For example - details of hand of guitarist on stage, smoking wheel of car that is racing, face expression of racers. (...)

Trouble is - i dont really know what focal length i want because i can't test it


There are a whole bunch of Field of View Calculators on the internet. Feel free to Google yourself, but for the sake of convenience, I just input the above criteria--1.6 CF, 15m--and 300mm FL into the Dimensional Field of View Calculator here:

http://www.tawbaware.com/maxlyons/calc.htm

And got:

FOV (horizontal) (feet/meters): 1m 12.5cm
FOV (vertical) (feet/meters): 0m 75cm

which would seem to me to be roughly what I would want for "smoking wheel of car that is racing, face expression of racers".

YMMV - Mark


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:59 am 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:30 pm
Posts: 9816
Location: UK
Hi dingo27mobile,

As it's for a Canon I've moved the thread but left a "shadow" behind so the thread can be found from its old location. Third party lens discussion is welcome in this section when the recommendation is specifically for a Canon body. 8)

Bob.

_________________
Olympus OM-D E-M1 + M.Zuiko Digital ED 12-40mm f/2.8, Lumix 7-14mm f/4, Leica DG Summilux 15mm f/1.7 ASPH, M.Zuiko Digital 45mm 1:1.8, M.Zuiko Digital ED 75mm 1:1.8.
Leica D Vario-Elmar 14mm-150mm f/3.5 - f/5.6 ASPH.
OM-D E-M5, H-PS14042E, Gitzo GT1541T, Arca-Swiss Z1 DP ball-head.
Astrophotography: TEC 140 'scope, FLI ML16803 camera, ASA DDM60 Pro mount.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 9:54 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:01 am
Posts: 1164
Location: bit east of Melbourne
For some of what you are after the aperture of 2.8 sounds like a necessity, but for range a 70-300 or 100-400.
Maybe consider a 100 macro 2.8 L - especially, if you think you might enjoy macro ( or 135 F2 ) and then 70-300 Tamron VC SP, for value for money.

But, like already mentioned the 70-200 is a good al rounder maybe budget in a 1.4 extender.

_________________
Canon Powershot S95, Canon 6D,7D, Canon 40 2.8 STM, Tamron 24-70 2.8 VC, Canon 17-40 L, Canon 15-85, Canon 85 1.8, Sigma 30 1.4, 50mm 1.8, Canon 100 2.8L Macro, Canon 70-300L +Kenko 1.4 Pro 300DGX, Canon 430EX II and RS 4 Classic


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:13 pm
Posts: 247
Location: Slovakia
Thank you all, ...

Yes, i was also considering 100mm F2.8L IS new macro, but it might be little too short

I was also thinking about 100-400, but that pumping zoom is a thing that i don't want.

It seems 70-200 with extender will suit me best - but i am still not sure which combination i will choose, maybe f4 IS with 1.4 II extender will be a good start.

But i still have an eye on 300 f4 IS...

_________________
I'm new to DSLR's, so please be patient and take my opinions with reserve. Thank you : ) Yes, i am Canon man.
Image Google + Image My picasa photos Image My 500px album
Canon 60D + 15-85mm f3.5-5.6 IS, Canon 70-200 F2.8L IS II, Canon 430EXII, polarizing filter 72mm,
Canon AT-1, 50mm FD F1.8
Canon A430,


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 9:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:22 pm
Posts: 1310
Location: Speyer (Germany)
dingo27mobile wrote:
But i still have an eye on 300 f4 IS...

That might be the sharpest solution. Maybe combined with a 1.4x extender.

_________________
Canon EOS 500D + Canon EOS 5D Mark III + Canon EOS 33v
Canon EF 28-80mm 3.5-5.6 USM + EF 24-105mm 4L IS USM + EF 100-400mm 4.5-5.6L IS USM + EF 50mm 1.8 II + EF 100mm 2.8L Macro IS USM + Sigma 12-24mm 4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM + Canon Speedlite 580 EX II + Nissin Speedlite Di 466


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 10:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 25, 2008 12:48 pm
Posts: 8025
Location: UK
If you're thinking of 70-200/4+extender, you might consider the 70-300L instead since with the extender you'll be stuck at f/5.6. Going for a 70-200/2.8 will allow you to retain f/4 to 280mm.

_________________
Canon DSLRs: 7D, 5D2, 1D, 600D, 450D full spectrum, 300D IR mod
Lenses: EF 35/2, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 135/2+SF, 28-80 V, 70-300L, 100-400L, TS-E 24/3.5L, MP-E 65, EF-S 15-85 IS
3rd party: Zeiss 2/50 makro, Samyang 8mm fisheye, Sigma 150 macro, 120-300 f/2.8 OS, Celestron 1325/13
Tinies: Sony HX9V.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:04 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 5:30 am
Posts: 111
Location: Kerala, India
If u want everything! (mean wide aperture and more mm ) then i thing u can consider sigma 120-300 F2.8 OS HSM
For that u need to stretch ur budget

_________________
CAMERAS:- Nikon D800 & Sony H50
LENSES:- Nikon AFS 50mm F1.8 G, Nikon AFS 24-70 F2.8 G, Sigma APO 70-200 F2.8 EX DG OS HSM
Wish list:- Nikon SB 700, Elinchrom FX 400


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:13 pm
Posts: 247
Location: Slovakia
popo wrote:
...Going for a 70-200/2.8 will allow you to retain f/4 to 280mm.


This seems as best solution, still the most expensive one.

does somebody here own a 70-300 IS "L" ? It also seems a good choice (but that poor aperture ... :cry: )

i know i might sound (or feel) like pain in the butt, but i have only three months before i will (maybe, but it seems so) loose my job, so i have just one try (and one budget of 2000 euros) to purchase right lens

_________________
I'm new to DSLR's, so please be patient and take my opinions with reserve. Thank you : ) Yes, i am Canon man.
Image Google + Image My picasa photos Image My 500px album
Canon 60D + 15-85mm f3.5-5.6 IS, Canon 70-200 F2.8L IS II, Canon 430EXII, polarizing filter 72mm,
Canon AT-1, 50mm FD F1.8
Canon A430,


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:20 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 25, 2008 12:48 pm
Posts: 8025
Location: UK
I have the 70-300L. With modern IS and weather sealing, I consider it the lightweight alternative to the 100-400L. For my styles of shooting the aperture isn't a problem and I've always managed to compensate with moderate high ISO even in dull weather.

_________________
Canon DSLRs: 7D, 5D2, 1D, 600D, 450D full spectrum, 300D IR mod
Lenses: EF 35/2, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 135/2+SF, 28-80 V, 70-300L, 100-400L, TS-E 24/3.5L, MP-E 65, EF-S 15-85 IS
3rd party: Zeiss 2/50 makro, Samyang 8mm fisheye, Sigma 150 macro, 120-300 f/2.8 OS, Celestron 1325/13
Tinies: Sony HX9V.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

All words, images, videos and layout, copyright 2005-2012 Gordon Laing. May not be used without permission.
/ How we test / Best Cameras / Advertising / Camera reviews / Supporting Camera Labs

Webdesign by Alphabase IT
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group