margaux wrote:
PauloFeitosa_Curitiba wrote:
It looks so much like a messenger bag, that most people get surprised when I pull a SLR system out of it.
Maybe people are surprised to see a camera come out because they expected a laptop? That's what I would expect out of a messenger bag in North America/Europe. To me, messenger bags says "expensive stuff" in there. The only time I think nothing "expensive" is in a messenger bag is when it's being worn by a tattooed hipster on a single-speed bike wearing a CB on his shoulder.
Anyway, I agree most non-photographers wouldn't think messenger bag = camera bag. But so many camera bags have come out now in messenger bag styles, it's becoming more widely recognised, especially by people who are familiar with camera gear or camera people.
Not that I don't like messenger bags, or these ones in particular. I just don't think they're quite as inconspicuous as you do.
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Bonjour Margaux (my wife's nickname, BTW).
I might agree with you regarding North America/Europe - but these places are safe enough to wear whatever you want, anyway. I recently spent a whole day at the San Diego's Zoo with a quite large/expensive kit just hanging around my neck (not even in a bag), and people simply didn't notice: not a single look. Same happened in Germany and Holland. While in France and Italy sometimes "awkward" people would pay me some attention - but nothing more than that.
But the places where I want the most to be unnoticed are "the rest of the world". I live in Brazil (and believe me when I say that Brazilian thieves have very large eyes for tourists with expensive gear), and around here students carry paper notepads and photocopied books in their messenger bags: you can hand count the ones that can afford real books, never mind a portable computer (and these fortunate ones mostly use those "computer backpacks", to better protect their investment). Therefore, around here a M.B. is quite inconspicuous, while dedicated bags like the sling bags (which I find so practical) and the real camera bags (like my beloved Canon 200) are the ones that shout out loudly.
In my defense, I placed a bunch of ugly stickers on my bag, leave the outside as dirty as I can (while the inside is spotless), and try not to wear photographer wear like vests and/or clothes with photo company logos (actually, I try to dress badly when I'm with my equipment, old & cheap stuff). I also try to minimize the time my camera stays outside the bag (take it out, shoot, and back in the bag it goes), thinking a lot about the shot *before* I take the camera out. Finally, if I'm really exposing myself (like street shooting at late hours and/or "exposed" places), I try to bring some friends with me (preferably the ones who are large and know how to fight well

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I liked the way you expressed your point. Would you have some other inconspicuous camera bags to show us?
Kind regards,
PF.
PS. What's a "CB"?