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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:21 pm 
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Interesting technology, poor product. I couldn't care less about a gimmicky facebook camera.

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I'm not impressed, is the long barrel design something to do with technology?

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The technology needs to improve before I'd consider it seriously. It can have some niche uses now, but not for me.

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Never trust a camera that's marketed by its colour.

I do like the f/2.0 constant aperture, though. That's a nice touch.

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Pretentious marketing is a guaranteed turn-off for me.

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Not the slightest bit interest, this takes all the fun and creativity out of photography. Then again, it might be good for people looking to take some vacation snaps of their family only...

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Once the technology developed, I see it as a bit of a threat to the skill involved with photography. I could see myself in and old rocking chair saying "I remember the days when you were stuck with one focal point. Once you took the photo, that was it!"

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Im not really interested either.

It looks like a camera that is just made for fun.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:59 am 
If you want a useful tool to help explain depth of field the gallery might be worth a look.

Playing the devils advocate- Isnt this just an extension to shooting RAW?

BBC News Technology wrote:
It is, in some ways, analogous to the practice of shooting RAW images with a current generation digital camera.

In that example, the device records all of the light falling on its sensor without running it through processes such as colour balancing or sharpening. These can be applied later on a computer.

Similarly, by recording the light field passing through many tiny micro-lenses in the Lytro, the action of merging these to create a single flat image can be applied as a post-production effect.

Taken from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15383516


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I'm not dissing the product because it's "simple", i'm dissing it because it's marketed as a facebook camera with absolutely no appeal to photographers.

There's absolutely no manual control on the thing aside from the zoom. You can't process the image files yourself, can't select a shutter speed, ISO.


No, I'd like to see this technology in a macro camera. Because you can focus afterwards, you can have all the DoF you need ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:29 pm 
Wow.. I'm shocked that this group does not realize the significance of this thing's underlying technology.

Yes.. its first incarnation here is cheesey, fbook, sub-pro-grade toy-product.
Yes it's being marketed like a candybar
Yes it's a long, hard to carry, uni-tasker that will probably fail..

But the underlying Light Field technology is totally game changing, disruptive technology.. and you KNOW that Nikon, Canon and others are pouring over the patents behind this as we type!

Imagine a zero-delay, focus later set of lenses WITH built in 3D on a DLSLR?! With a =decent F#, the power of that offering would separate DSLRs into pre-all-focus and "modern" cameras.

Forget about the Lytro camera, but Light Field technology is truly a disruptive technology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_field


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I'm no theorist but I will theorise that the Lytro's rather pathetic 1MP best case output resolution is symptomatic of an underlying issue. For the camera to capture DoF information one has to be asking it to capture a lot more information about the field of view than a regular photograph and that, to my untutored mind, means that the signal to noise ratio is being squeezed in the wrong direction. It may just be that a "Light Field" camera that can deliver the silky smooth IQ we all crave would require such enormous light gathering power to achieve, say, 15MP output resolution that the final size of the camera would be impractical. I hope I'm wrong...

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I don't think people are under-estimating the technology's potential, but they can't get really enthused until it makes a significant improvement into a tangible product. I'm sure we wouldn't say no to a Star Trek holo-imager thingy that captures the whole "beyond 3D" environment in an instant, but we're some way off that I think...

By "beyond 3D" I mean, what we have now only offers depth information from roughly one viewpoint. With multiple viewpoints you could reconstruct the whole environment, not just what you get from one viewpoint.

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Is the out of focus effect not made by software? I mean, Ive used a great pocket camera, with a fixed lens and quite big aperture. If youre interested, it's the Traveler DC-5080.
What I wanted to say though, is that it doesnt have AF and everything after 0,8 meters is sharp. Couldnt that be the same case with this camera? I know software which can blur pictures in that way people would think youve got a shallow DOF...

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