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Really??
How many of u will agree jiko's words!!

I feel, I am not one of them

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Actually, if you go to 'the-digital-picture' and look in the ISO 12233 comparisons, the 24-105 is better at some focal lengths at the same apertures. However, overall, the 24-70 appears to be consistently better in the mid frame and at the edges. Neither one looks significantly better than the other overall though.

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Canon 5D Mk II * 17-40 F/4L * 24-105 F/4L * EF 70-200mm f/4L IS * Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 * EF 50 f/1.4 * Lensbaby Composer * EF 100-400 L * EF 100 F/2.8 Macro * EF 1.4x Extender III * Speedlite 430EX II * Speedlight MR-14EX *

I didn't say the 24-70 2.8 was bad and blurry but not as sharp as the 24-105mm - and I guess the new version of the 24-70mm should be better and beat the 24-105mm in that way.


Well - I guess there are two types of photographers:
The 24-70mm + 70-200mm people and the 24-105 + 100-400mm people.

EDIT: Three types: The "doesn't matter, I'm using everything people" were missing.

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While I don`t have the lens myself, I have read a few reviews about it, as I want to buy a large aperture zoom around that range.

do a google and read some for yourself, ie photozone and digital pitcure and slr gear come to mind.

The reviews do mention that there is a large variation in samples and that its sharpness isn`t all that high. Keep in mind that as a package its a great lens and sharpness is not the only criteria.

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Uhuuu - Tamron has announced a new 24-70mm as well:
http://www.tamron.eu/en/news/read/data/ ... 4-70m.html
- first Tamron lens with weather sealing
- USD (= USM)
aaand: VC (=IS)
And the lens isn't really heavier. Now why can Tamron do it but Canon can't?
Let's see what IQ it can produce. Maybe that won't be just the cheap alternative but the better solution if you don't care whether your lens has a red ring or not? With their 70-200mm they have proven that they know how to produce nice optics.

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Canon EF 24-105mm 4L IS USM + EF 100-400mm 4.5-5.6L IS USM + EF 100mm 2.8L Macro IS USM + Sigma 12-24mm 4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM + Canon Speedlite 580 EX II + Nissin Speedlite Di 466

I think I'll still stick to the first version of it

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If I had the first version, I wouldn't upgrade either. Maybe the new lens is a little bit better but not enough to justify the paid money.

If they upgraded the 100-400mm with better IQ, better IS and especially weather sealing I might think of upgrading (but I don't think it would get further than "thinking" in the next few years after the release). At the moment I just want a walkaround lens and for me I chose the 24-105mm F4. As soon as I have the money.
Maybe I'll save more money and get a 5D3+24-105mm kit in the future

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Canon EF 24-105mm 4L IS USM + EF 100-400mm 4.5-5.6L IS USM + EF 100mm 2.8L Macro IS USM + Sigma 12-24mm 4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM + Canon Speedlite 580 EX II + Nissin Speedlite Di 466

I was hoping for an IS version. That would be one of my dream lenses with f2.8 and IS. I was planning on selling my 24-105L for a 24-70L IS... Looks like I'll have to wait

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James,

It wasn't that long ago that you just got your 24-105mm f/4L IS USM lens.
I would generally think it would be a while before you would want to replace it with anything.

There is always the 16-35mm f/2.8L USM II or the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II if you wanted a f/2.8 aperture with some overlap with your 24-105mm f/4L.
Not to mention the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM.

And speaking on these lenses, ever since the official announcement I have been underwhelmed. None of these lenses is very interesting for me or making me want to part with my hard earned money. They are probably significant improvements over what had come before, and people have especially been wanting Canon to focus on the consumer grade primes. Canon has listened and even put IS into their wide consumer primes. But the problem with all this is that Canon is just responding to what people want rather than providing them something they did not realize they wanted or needed.

To quote a well known character, "After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."

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well the 24-70 is 1 of the sharpest lens I shot,it almost as sharp as my 100mm 2.8L, sharper then my 17-40mm. But it had back focus problems that had to be sent into canon. The color the 24-70 lens produces is spectacular(better then any of my zoom lens or my 100mm), what's really the biggest selling point to me on the new 24-70 II is the inter focus with usm (correct me if I'm wrong) + it's 145g lighter. just hard to swallow $1300 vs $2299.



As for as the 24-105mm f4L I don't own it,(so cant comment on the sharpness) reason why I don't own it the mm range is to far apart for me.

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Wake up canon or throw the towel in!!

@ BleuDragon I now I have only just got my 24-105 but I told myself if they ever brought a 24-70 IS I would buy it. The 2.8 aperture with IS would be very nice and I wouldn't mind loosing 35mm for it.

I know I can get other lenses and plan to get a 70-200 2.8 IS II as soon as I have the money, which may be a while since I just bought a 17 inch MacBook Pro

I agree with you Canons latest lenses are a little disappointing. I don't think they have done enough to keep up with the competition. This is especially true with the cameras. Nikons D800 looks very good, hopefully Canon won't be too far behind with a 5D mk3

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Oh that is so lame, every hot girl who can aim a camera thinks she’s a photographer -Stewie Griffin

I think I will set aside the idea of a Canon 24-70mm L zoom for a while, either the current one or the II, and turn my attention back to a 135L. By late Summer of 2013, I will have several financial obligations out of my way, and by then, there should be some user reviews of the 24-70mm 2.8L II posted.

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