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We all were expecting EF 24-70 F2.8 IS USM............


But NO IS?????

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Are there any major improvements. Would it be worth paying extra for the new model or could you just buy a cheaper older one. No 5D3 yet, I assumed that would be released with this.

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canon also announced new non L primes

Canon EF 24mm 2.8 IS USM
Canon EF 28mm 2.8 IS USM


I wasnt really expecting the next 24-70 to have IS... I expecting size/weight reduction and improved IQ

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I guess it's mainly an IQ upgrade as the older version wasn't really that sharp (compared to the 24-105mm f4L IS USM).

The 24 & 28mm 2.8 IS USM lenses are nice, too. OK, they don't get that extra stop of light some primes get, but the IS might be pretty handy and especially on those wide angle lenses that are probably used more for landscapes than for sports or portraits ;)
renjith wrote:
We all were expecting EF 24-70 F2.8 IS USM............


But NO IS?????

Yeah, IS + better IQ could be the 24-105mm killer even for me but looking at Canon's patents it was quite clear we wouldn't get an IS version.

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If the prices stay as-is, I think Canon has a lot to think about if they expect people to pay these prices... I've no doubts that people will, but to me I can sum these announcements up in one word:

Meh.

Too expensive, not enough bang for the buck. I don't doubt that the IQ of the new 24-70 will be killer, but not $2300-killer...

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I like the lighter weight! (Getting old is a pain; my right wrist frequently reminds me.) On another forum, members were praising the 82mm filter size, apparently because it is a common size for some other professional zoom lenses. (Without going to the Canon site to make sure, I think the 16-35mm II uses 82mm filters.) Some were lamenting the lack of IS, while others were saying IS is not needed on a lens in this focal length range. I am not sure whether IS is beneficial with lenses much less than 100mm. I know IS benefits me with my 100mm 2.8L Macro. My 28-135mm zoom, which has a much earlier version of IS, seems to benefit from the IS mostly at the long end.

I had nearly bought the current 24-70mm during Canon USA's recent factory rebate period, but it would have stretched my budget, so I settled for a lower-priced item, a better flashgun, instead. (The 580EX II was very nice to have during my last shoot at work, which happened in the rain.) The delay may have been for the best, as this II lens might be a bit better for me than the current 24-70mm, anyway.

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Hi RexGig,

We've done the hard work for you. The CameraLabs Canon DSLR lens range pages include filter size. Here's the entry for the EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM . 8)

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It is disappointing that there is no IS, and RexGig, I think ALL focal lengths benefit from IS.... if you pixel peep. lol

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Do you think Image Stablisation sells in the eyes of the uninitiated in photography, when concerning the IS abilities of these new wide primes, or it a feature to attract the videography crowd?

Sure in low-light conditions it will be useful, particularly the 28mm; which is as close to 'standard' as Canon has got for a cropped framed sensor and would be a likely counterpart to Nikon AF-S 35mm f1.8 DX which is extremley popular. However the differentiation in price is quite stark between the two; about three times as much!!!

I wonder how the 28mm would compare to the 28mm f1.8 USM, at f2.8?

Actually despite them having IS I was a little disappointed not to see a faster f stop for the pair, or is this just a non-L/ L lens feature division, and/ or they are not portrait lenses (so bokeh abilities are not required when a large depth of field is)?

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Not only if you pixel peep but also if you are shooting video.

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Jiko, you are very correct: IS does make a difference with video.

WillS, I imagine that the two primes are more for the video crowd since they didn't make them faster. Well that and it seems that Canon is slowly developing IS alternatives to most of their lenses. Give it a few more years and I think there will be an IS version and non-IS version of most of their lenses.... at least the ones that there is a market for IS.

But still, after the success of the 17-55 F/2.8 IS one would think that Canon would have reconsidered adding IS to the 24-70 F/2.8L II

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I expect that there must be a substantial improvement in all areas for Canon to have released this without IS, so would expect excellent results. Also points towards good high iso performance for the new 5D, as they didn`t add IS.

Its possibly the main lens for the FF bodies, with the 70-200L 2.8 II, so they need to get it right.

Interesting that tamron have added is to theirs, the current 28-75 is well known for its centre sharpness, outdoes the canon. If they get this one right and the price is right, they will sell plenty. Now that it has a usd, its got potential.

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Maxjj, unfortunately Tamron has not had much luck improving image sharpness in their VC models as compared to their non-VC models.

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true enough for the 17-50, but not for the 70-300. So they can do it.

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