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 Post subject: Goodbye Picasa?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:21 pm 
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I just went to upload a photo as I have always done via Picasa, expecting it to work like it always has, give me a page where I can get a link to embed the photo into a forum.

Not any more... it took me to my Plus page I didn't know I had (not logged in) and even logged in, there's no easy way to navigate the photos, nor link to the image.

I guess I'll be looking for another image host then, as I find the Plus interface complete unusable. Reminds me of photobucket now...

Edit: after a bit of poking around, I found I can still access picasaweb by url manually. From there I can browse to the uploaded file and get the link like I used to. But this is a LOT more hassle than it was. I can't see any obvious way to change the setting to keep this as default.

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Hooray! There is a way to fix it. All I had to do was delete my Google+ account that I never used. Sorted. Everything goes through picasaweb again.

Hmm... behaviour still isn't exactly like it was. While the Picasa client remembers and uses your account to upload, it doesn't log you in online and you need to separately log into google to view the upload.

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The last piece of the jigsaw is in place. It seems the change in behaviour came (in part) with version 3.9 of the client. They still offer 3.8 for download, so I put that back on and everything is exactly how I like it once again.

I think I have 3.9 on another system, so I'll have one more look in case I overlooked a setting somewhere where I could turn off the new crap, but I'm not optimistic. I don't know if simply reverting the client software would have fixed all my issues, so deleting my + profile may or may not be necessary, but since I found no use for it I'm not going to bother making another one.

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Typical computer evolution: Instead of just letting the stuff work better with the same handling (the one we are used to) as before, they just change the handling all the time.
I even set Win7 back to the Win98 handling I was used to. Apart from the things you just can't change any more.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:11 pm 
I have a link in my favourites https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/myphotos that I use now. All seems to handle just the same as long as I dont click the button Picasa throws up when its finished uploading

Ahhh, not exactly, its difficult to get a link to share albums easily with folks


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:11 pm 
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I got really worried when I read the OP, but I can still link to my photos (which I just verified here). I did have to go to http://www.picasaweb.google.com, since Google+ doesn't provide a way to get the link directly.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:22 pm 
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I have to admit I didn't have the complete picture at the start, and I probably still don't now. But whatever it is, a double hit of reverting to Picasa 3.8 and deleting my Plus account (but retaining the general google account) has put things back how I like it. I don't have a way now to test if using just Picasa 3.8 alone is enough, even with a Plus account.

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Discussions such as this make me want to totally revert to film! :shock:

I am a relative dinosaur with digital things. My work photos are uploaded as JPEGs into a proprietary program that is specific for evidentiary photos. I save personal images on a CD as needed. About the time I start to develop the courage to try something more advanced, I read something like this.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:27 pm 
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If there is one thing you can be sure of, is that software changes. Sometimes, but not always for the better. Image hosting for others to view is just one part of the chain.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:46 pm 
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If I want someone to view one of my images, I reckon I could send a CD or print by mail.

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This reminds me. School children here tested data transfer speed between two schools about 10 km apart. A file of about 100M was sent through the internet and the same file by carrier pigeon. Guess which one was faster.
I personally can’t stand the web browser based applications like Gmail or Picasa and all the rest. Those are slow, cumbersome and I need a Martian’s intuition to find my way around. I won’t touch those. I’m using Flikr only to post pictures here and nothing more.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:42 am 
But the picasa software isn't web based, it's computer based and gmail works just like any other email service with the likes of computer based software e.g. Outlook

The free web hosting that picasa software can link in with is the same in primcipal as Flickr but with a lot more space. The issue is one of change as they look to bring together their existing services into google+

I have both a Flickr account and a web hosting account and find the picasa service much easier to use at present


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:21 pm 
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If Picasa is easier than Flickr, I may give it a try. I have a Flickr account, and somehow managed to post one mobile phone image there, which was, for me, a major accomplishment, but I have been unable to make that image available for others to see, and have been unable to send any DSLR images to Flickr.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:22 am 
What software do you use atm RexGig?

Flickr has an uploader that all you need to do is open the software then drag n drop the files into the window. You then select a couple of options about how you want it organised in Flickr and then press upload and off it goes


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I struggled mightily with Flickr to get one mobile phone image onto my page. That was so long ago, I do not recall the details. My netbook, which runs Vista, has not cooperated with my attempts to work with images from my DSLRs. That is largely what prompted me to buy my film Nikons! Since buying my iPad last Spring, I have used it for just about all of my personal on-line activity, but I not think an iPad can drag and drop.

At work, we use proprietary software. I shoot evidentiary images, and the legal system requires a documentable chain of custody of all evidence. If my employer's image software system is similar to any other non-gov't software out there, I am unaware of it.

I have seen an instructional book at a local bookseller on the subject of Picasa, written in terminology that non-technical people can understand. If popo favors Picasa, that seems a good indication I should look into it.

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