Camera Labs

@Jiko: Interesting that you feel the same!
@Gordon: please help: "ILC"="???". And "sadly", yes that's what it really is...
@Marijn: Great setup
@popo: would be interesting to see whether Canon has understood the need for smaller gear...
@Bob: Hey welcome fellow OM-user! Olympus did some pretty impressive stuff with the OM, didn't they?

_________________
Thomas (beware: Nikon-fanboy and moderator!) My Lens Reviews, My Pictures, My Photography Blog
D800+assorted lenses

How do you call that... "thing" between the cameras? Might be nice for a sound recorder I have.

The friendly way of calling an "EVIL" camera

_________________
Canon EOS 500D + Canon EOS 5D Mark III
Canon EF 24-105mm 4L IS USM + EF 100-400mm 4.5-5.6L IS USM + EF 100mm 2.8L Macro IS USM + Sigma 12-24mm 4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM + Canon Speedlite 580 EX II + Nissin Speedlite Di 466

Ah, the IL is for interchangeable lens, but a Leica M3 would then be a ILC and not a EVIL - because it has no electronic viewfinder. Thanks Jiko!
The only thing I expect from electronic vf: show me the real (impact of) dof!
Even on my OM-screen the dof either
(a) looks greater than it is at fully open aperture, because the vf-screen is still a little too transparent or
(b) cannot be scrutinized well enough when you stop down and the screen dims down accordingly.

_________________
Thomas (beware: Nikon-fanboy and moderator!) My Lens Reviews, My Pictures, My Photography Blog
D800+assorted lenses

It's a hotshoe to tripod adapter. I mainly use it to mount a small video recorder, but it should work well for sound recorders too.

Costs like 3 bucks if you get it from ebay, or 40 if you get it from a camera store

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-Type-1-4-20 ... 20bb1dfc19

_________________
I take pictures so quickly, my highschool was "Continuous High".

http://image-sensors-world.blogspot.com ... -with.html

Found a DSC processor for our theoretical camera! ^^

_________________
Canon 5D MkII -|- Sigma 24mm f/1.8 | Carl Zeiss 35mm f/2.0 | Canon 50mm f/1.4 | Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro | Lensbaby Composer
Canon A-1 -|- Canon 28mm f/2 | Canon 35mm f/2.8 | Canon 50mm f/3.5 Macro

I'm sure that one would fit the OM-body - and uses only little battery power.

_________________
Thomas (beware: Nikon-fanboy and moderator!) My Lens Reviews, My Pictures, My Photography Blog
D800+assorted lenses

I bought my first Nikon FM3A because of curiosity, with its compact size being a factor in that curiosity. I recently bought a second, more pristine FM3A because I found myself really liking the first one, with compactness being a BIG part of it.

The FM3A can be used fully manually, with no battery, or can be used with a tiny battery or two in order for the metering to function.

I am researching various pancake-style lenses to make the package more compact, than with my currently-owned 50mm 1.2 AI-s. (new Voigtlanders, older Nikkors)

_________________
Canon 7D/5D/40D/1D2N; Nikon F6, FM3A, & Coolpix A; Canon 40mm Pancake, 135L, 50L, 35L, pre-II 50mm 1.8, 100mm 2.8L Macro, 10-22mm EF-S, 28-135 EF, 400mm 5.6L; Nikkor 50mm 1.2 AI-S, 50mm 1.4G, 50mm 1.8D, 16mm 2.8D Fisheye, 180mm 2.8D, 100-300mm 5.6 AI-S; Tokina 17mm & 100mm 2.8 Macro

Probably due to electronics, Light meter, batteries, compact flash cards, to help balance out large lenses.

_________________
Mark Osborne
My life through an iPhone

I have an EOS 3 which is around the same size as my EOS 5D.....

_________________
http://www.parismetrotrash.com

DP-Paris, I will indeed find it interesting if you find that camera nostalgic.

_________________
Canon 5D MkII -|- Sigma 24mm f/1.8 | Carl Zeiss 35mm f/2.0 | Canon 50mm f/1.4 | Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro | Lensbaby Composer
Canon A-1 -|- Canon 28mm f/2 | Canon 35mm f/2.8 | Canon 50mm f/3.5 Macro

not nostalgic, but functionality wise it is comparable (has better features even, discounting the eye-tracking focus...) than the 5D2, with a similar size. I still can't stop looking at the back each time I take a photo with it though....

_________________
http://www.parismetrotrash.com

I'm not following...
Is one of those Canon bodies especially small?

_________________
Thomas (beware: Nikon-fanboy and moderator!) My Lens Reviews, My Pictures, My Photography Blog
D800+assorted lenses

It was more to highlight that rich functionality, even for older film cameras, comes at the expense of size.

_________________
http://www.parismetrotrash.com

Not only has size changed over the years, but build quality had also decreased quite a bit. I was looking at my old Nikon FM and Voigtlaender Vito III today, both are built of solid metal, along with my old collection of AI-S lenses. You didn't have to worry too much if you dropped it (of course, that doesn't mean that it was safe to drop it), but if it dropped there certainly wouldn't be as much damage as there would be to a modern dropped DSLR. What's the point of having all of these expensive modern components if they'll all come smashing out to easily? I understand that expensive pro-grade DSLRs have some magnesium alloy and metal, but even they have some plastic parts. Entry level DSLRs are made of almost entirely plastic, something that you would NEVER find on older film SLRs.

_________________
-Evan

Gear: 7 Nikon Nikkor AI-S and AF-S lenses, SB-700 flash, Nikon D7000, Nikon FM, variety of accessories

"There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs."
- Ansel Adams

Sure, but you can say that about almost anything old with a heavy electronic interface. Now a days this argument will fall short instantly.

Metal chassis gives a false sense of security, because PCB and the components which sits on its surface are as brittle as they come. So unless the PCB is suspended in way to remove the force it may experience at the end of a fall something else needs to take that hit, plastic/rubber being a very good flexible material.
Old SLR's usually don't suffer from this as their electronics has a tendency of being fully bendable copper strips.
The way Nikon/Canon and others is doing this today is great, magnesium alloy and a rubberized exterior. Since the metal is thin and not a solid piece its fairly flexible.
What I would like to see is better weather sealing with the same materials used today, but with hidden thick rubber corners, and rubber linings around the camera.

Entry level DSLR's needs to be cheap and light, metals would ruin that a bit.

_________________
Canon 5D MkII -|- Sigma 24mm f/1.8 | Carl Zeiss 35mm f/2.0 | Canon 50mm f/1.4 | Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro | Lensbaby Composer
Canon A-1 -|- Canon 28mm f/2 | Canon 35mm f/2.8 | Canon 50mm f/3.5 Macro