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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:24 am 
Yes RAW sounds tempting, but do not expect the RAW from the DLSR´s
read up on some P&S with RAW. It is minimal what you can do with it.
And when you look at the videos from the Fuji before they are mostly awful compared to the Sony and Panasonic videos - I tested one myself.

Anyhow since now nearly all competitors are announced I am working on a comparison between:
Sony HX9V, Ricoh CX5, Panasonic ZS10, Olympus SZ-10, Nikon S9100, Fuji F550, Casio EX-ZR100, Canon SX320


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:45 pm 
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Thanks. I am looking forward to your review. I have RAW on my Panasonic LX3 and it does reduce highlight clipping, when compared to the LX3's JPEGs. However, my HX5 has about the best Highlight performance with JPEG as I have had in JPEGs from any camera including my DSLRs.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:43 am 
frank, I totally agree. I always shoot with life histogram and just dial the exposure comp down until there is no more clipping.
At home with simple free software I get then the dark details back with brightening the shadow areas etc. (see samples on ny HX5 blog)

I also posted the links to the first HX5 10MP vs HX7V 16MP comparison and it is easy to see that the reduced photons make the HX7V pictures darker than the same from the HX5.
Sony had to change the default contrast and sharpness settings to compensate for the more softer image.
It seemed they did an OK job the 16MP pictures are not as bad as I expected.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:48 pm 
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Joe, thanks for the comparison. I agree that the 16MP sample does not look too bad, but that the contrast needs to be dialed down. I think the HX9 allows you to reduce contrast in-camera. If not, then Sony better do it.

I do the same as you and reduce exposure until the histogram indicates no blown highlights. However, as you point out, this increases noise and I do not like to add more noise reduction.

I got a Nikon P7000 yesterday which has RAW and a somewhat larger sensor - the same size sensor as the Canon G12 (and about the same size as the Panasonic LX5 and my LX3), yet has a decent focal range of 28-200mm. I expect the P7000 to be my main camera. I read many reviews and overall it should meet my needs. On occasion, the HX5 will supplement it with its 10fps and greater focal range and I may a still replace the HX5 with the HX7 or Fuji F550.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:00 pm 
frank for your new toy there is an important firmware update


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Thanks Joe. I had downloaded it.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:17 am 
I have the first pre-production Sony HX9V samples on-line.

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ISO 100 resized to 4MP original size crop

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ISO 1600 resized to 4MP original size crop

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16x zoom 100% crop from the original 16MP image

I like what I see so far
more at my blog


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:45 am 
Hello,

I am looking for a new compact camera, and I really hesitate between the Sony HX9V and the Panasonic TZ20.

Do you have any clue about when a complete test of the HX9V will be out ?

Or any advice to choose between these two cameras ?

Thanks for your help !


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:21 pm 
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I can't say, sorry. No sign of the HX9 in NZ yet.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:03 am 
Thanks for the info.

I read some test on internet, and clearly, the TZ20 has got image quality problem.

The HX9 seems to be quite good, but not perfect and the Canon SX230 has got the best images quality, but is less performant in video and other features like 3D images or landscape. (the test I read : CLICK)


Looking forward for your test :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:10 am 
I did a fun comparison from the Sony HX9V vs Panasonic ZS10 / TZ20 vs Canon SX220 / SX230 vs Nikon D7000 vs Sony Alpha SLT-A55

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all pictures above are full resolution crops
One from the D7000, one from the A55 and one from the HX9V
can you guess which is which?
check out the area under the little roof of the menu and the detail in the wall above. (you might need to adjust the angle of your monitor for full detail)
also check out the store sign, one camera can make out the neon tubes behind it.
more at my blog


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:56 am 
I read your test, it was very interesting (as said on your blog :wink: ).


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:05 pm 
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I'm unlikely to get an HX9 for some time now, but I have managed to do a TZ20 / ZS10 vs SX230 HS comparison which you might enjoy:

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Canon ... oise.shtml


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:26 am 
Gordon, I always enjoy Camera Labs


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Thanks Joe. I wish I could get an HX9 to compare right now, but it looks like being a long time.


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