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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:23 am 
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Hi guys,

this sort of topic must be there in thousands but I can't find what I was looking at!

I'm on a limited budget and so I was thinking what to do, get a old Tamron 200-400 f5.6 for my D200 or use an 2x converter like the Kenko Pro 300 DG or Soligor MC7 2x on my Sigma 70-210 f.2.8.

focal length and aperture wise this would be the same but how about image quality?

The Sigma is sharp from f3.5 onward, so this would mean f7.1 with the converter, maybe f8! How is the Tamron at f5.6, f7.1 and f8? Is it better?

There are so many different opinions on the Tamron 200-400 and the solutions mostly go into saving 1500€ for a Canon 100-400 or Nikon 80-400 which is not possible at the moment!

Maybe someone has an ideas or even experience with the lenses and combinations!

Both options would cost me roughly the same money (ca. 100€)

Cheers,

Karhallarn

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:00 am 
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With birding, there are three main things that you need to get the perfect shot:

1. Fast glass. When birding, you want to catch the bird directly in flight. In lower light conditions, especially in the late afternoon or on a cloudy day, you'll need faster glass to catch the bird in flight without motion blur. F8 may be too slow, and your shot would be ruined. Although some IS features compensate for camera shake, they only reduce hand vibrations, they have no affect on capturing action.

2. Fast autofocus. A few days ago I was out birding with my Nikon FM, and a 200mm F4 AI lens, with MF only. I must have missed many, many shots, simply because I couldn't get the focus right in time. Now I must admit that on some shots I didn't fire simply in fear that I may be "wasting" film, in case the focus isn't exactly on or it's a tad bit overexposed. This is digital, where you can shoot as much as you want. Although, you'll still want a fast AF system to catch the bird right in flight!

3. Telephoto capabilities. Telephoto capabilities are obviously a key component to birding. While a normal lens may be good for a group of birds, or a W/A lens may be good perhaps for a group of birds flying in the sky, telephoto capabilities are very important for getting close up to a bird, on a tree or in flight. Also note that telephoto zooms can be convenient when birding, a zoom to change the focal length is a lot better than cropping it afterwards in photoshop.

So, what lens could I recommend to you? I'd consider the Nikkor 70-300mm VR lens, it's pretty fast, comes at a fair price and has a wonderful AF system. Remember that when you're birding, the longer the better! The Tamron 200-400 f5.6 also would be a decent choice, although you must note that the AF system is slower and it's not very fast, but it's good if you're after a tele zoom on a budget.

-Evan

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