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 Post subject: Leica or Panasonic?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:48 pm 
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Hi,

I just read that Leica will release a new compact camera called v-lux 20 which is based on the panasonic SZ7. Probably the same camera with a red dot. Based on the LX3 and leica d-lux 4 that differs only on few physical asthetic traits and on slight levels of color and contrast in the JPEG output. Oh and on the price too, twice the price for the Leica. This new vlux 20 will probably have the same spect of the SZ7 and will cost twice the price too. So my question is: Worth something pay so much just for red dot????

I still can not understand why people pay for the Leica(Panasonic) compact cameras.


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... why does people pay x$ for a
gold ring if silver ring is very
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That red dot will never come off...you can be sure of that! :) Being a Leica,that red dot lasts forever! And does it worth it? YES! You can brag anywhere with a Leica camera! Maybe nobody will care & photographers will laugh at you because you spend a lot of money on nothing,but that's ok,you got a LEICA!

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Well, speaking of the D Lux 3 VS the Lx3, Mark at Leica told me that they are basicly the same camera. Same lens and guts really. However, her are whats different.
1. Different firmware.

2. Different Software for computer.

3. Leica has a 3 year warranty.

Thats about it.

Rob

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 3:13 am 
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Hi all.

I was a our local camera shop and took photos (same pics) with both the Leica V-Lux 20 and the Panasonic ZS7. I saved the max res images to the card and took them home to inspect on the computer. I have to say the Leica images were remarkably better than the Panasonic.

The pics were better in terms of fidelity. They appeared equally sharp, no artifacts, no color fringing, etc. But, the colour balance was much better, the depth of the image, skin tones were all better with the Leica.

How is this possible if the cameras are identical internally?


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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:35 am 
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If youre buying a Leica, youre buying because you want a Leica!
If you want a camera for photos on holidays only, take the Panny.

I think the Leica is more for a dSLR owner who wants a smaller camera.

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cyber3d, you need to post the images somewhere so we can all take a look at them.


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:27 am 
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I'll post them up here. Anyone happen to know the files size limit for the forum?

I may sell the Panasonic. For me the difference in pic quality is worth the difference in price.

It seems as though 98% of the blogs, articles and reviews said the cameras were both identical. I went for the Panasonic to save some money. In my case, I probably should have waited.


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You'll need to upload the images to a site like flickr, then link to them here, see this guide:

http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3315


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Maybe that legendary red dot "inspires" some (meaning of course the placebo effect) that their cameras have the best image quality. :D

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Interesting comment about colour accuracy, I have found that colours on the LX3 are wrong using the default settings, but fine when using "nostalgic". Is this a panasonic trait?


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