podgeorge wrote:
Can we please get back on topic now?? This is getting a bit silly now
Anyway would you care to share your D700 impression Greg??
LOL, I'd love to George, but I'm afraid I'd attract the wrong kind of attention, just as this thread has done. I won't go into too much detail, but in a nutshell;
Viewfinder; blows anything else I've used away. You could think of it like shooting with a dark curtain around your viewfinder, suddenly being taken away.
Build; solid, grip is perfect for heavier glass. I originally thought the D80 was more comfortable, and it is, but only for consumer glass like my 18-70 that I sold. As soon as you go to heavier glass the grip wasn't large enough. So for larger/heavier lenses, the D700 is top notch. It's weather sealed as well. I never really worried with my D80 so I won't with this either. At the same time I don't shoot in the rain, and if I needed to I'd have some sort of cover arranged.
AF; for what I use it for, baptisms/christenings, in church lighting, it's great. I don't use more than single point because that's the only option that makes sense when you're using single servo af, and shooting static objects. With moving object, the 51 pt 3D tracking is sweet as anything but in low light there's not enough contrast for it to be truely effective. For the sort of lighting in sports stadiums though I've heard it's awesome.
The most important part about the af is focus acquisition, it just snaps into focus so much faster than my D80. It's near instantaneous.
With regard to focusing with non af-s lenses, like my 35mm F2D, focus speed is also pretty impressive. I can see why there was no real improvement in focus speed with the new af-s 35mm or the 50mm af-s. The glass is so light, that it really doesn't take much effort for the D700's motor to track from one end of the focus to the other. The D80 wasn't this fast, not by a mile. As for af noise, it's all balony. Unless you are shooting in a church where nobody is talking (including the priest) and you aren't taking pictures, (the shutter release makes more noise than the af motor) then it won't cause anyone to notice you. Don't forget it takes just under a second to focus from the one end to the other. You aren't going to be going from one end of the focusing range to the other shot after shot.
Buffer and shooting speed; coming from the d80 the D700's 5fps is more than enough. I rarely use 5fps. I've only held the shutter down once just to try it. I normally have my D700 set to single shot.
The screen is also awesome. If you've compared the D80 screen to the older D50 or D70 screen, then you'll know what I mean. It's just no comparison, not to say that the D80's screen is bad, it's just not this good.
At the end of the day, you can go on and on about what camera does what, and what the other camera doesn't have, but the real question is, will you actually use those extra features on a daily basis? The answer is probably not. I don't shoot in the wild, so you could say I don't need the build. I haven't shot any sports yet, so you could say I don't need the 51 point AF. I wanted to be able to shoot in churches without flash if I needed to. I don't shoot at Iso 6400 every day. The highest I've had to take it is 3200. But the option to do so is there. At the same time, we all love the latest and greatest. So this is what I got. All the extra things like the viewfinder, the screen, the focus speed, all just make using this thing even more of a pleasure. Everyone has different needs and preferences. There really is no point knocking the other systems as each system has their strong points.
You can call it teasing, you can also call it being a troll.
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Was just making a general 'take it with a pinch of salt' statement.
and you block them for it? then whats the difference between you and that **********(insert bad words there) on youtube that has "Channel Rules" (uhg I hate him)