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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:46 pm 
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[EDIT - I've changed the subject title to be less offensive to E-P1 owners - Gordon]

Yes she is pretty, but so is my stainless steel toaster.

No viewfinder, relying instead on its 3.0-inch 230k LCD monitor.
An optional add-on optical NON ZOOM viewfinder is available, which clips onto the flash hot shoe, but it's only calibrated for the 17mm non-zoom lens, and adds another £100 onto the price.

No built-in flash no focus assist lamp.
A matching accessory flash gun is available, but it costs another £160. It's doubly annoying because without a flash or any sort of AF assist lamp the E-P1 has major problems in low light levels.

Camera with lens 14-42mm £699.00
Flash £160.00
total crappy viewfinder £100.00
yours for only £959.00

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Gran Canaria - Struth! What are these "new trendies" thinking of?

> Here in Oz the EP-1 just with 14-42mm lens is AUD$1,349.00 (US$1,080.00), and with the strange add-on viewfinder thingy - AUD$1,749.00 (US$1,400.00)

> The EP-1 makes the Pentax KM / K2000 I'm saving for, at a hefty AUD$1,120.00 (US$900.00) - with the 2 Pentax kit lenses, look like a bargain. While being Entry-Level, at least it's a "real" DSLR!

> Until I get a KM, my new Canon SX10 (training-course for the KM!) - will help me avoid things like EP-1s....

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Can't agree more, I don't really understand how they related it to the original Pen that is with no doubt a great camera.

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:roll:

Theres a lot of people who have gotten one and love it. Those particular people think the camera suits their needs despite its drawbacks.

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Hi folks,

Yes, I'd love to know why the E-P1 is so expensive when it's mechanically simpler than a DSLR. :evil:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:33 pm 
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Bob Andersson wrote:
Hi folks,

Yes, I'd love to know why the E-P1 is so expensive when it's mechanically simpler than a DSLR. :evil:

Bob.


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Troll Much?

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Hi idavis,

Did you mean me? Sorry if that's the way it came over as I'm already on record elsewhere as loving the camera. But I really do worry that it won't reach it's full sales potential if the price doesn't drop and that would be a huge shame.

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As an owner, I took it for all its advantages and faults. Given the negative tone of the 1st post, I'm surprised the AF speed wasn't added.

Yes, compared to entry level DSLRs, it's expensive and lacking in some features. But it's also smaller. Small is a feature. If that doesn't have value to you, fair enough, get a DSLR.

Anyway, gave mine a bit of a workout today, pics later :D

The price right now will be at a premium as it only just came on the market and demand is higher than supply. Give it a month or two and it might start to settle into a "typical" price which is more reasonable comparatively.

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Bob Andersson wrote:
Hi idavis,

Did you mean me? Sorry if that's the way it came over as I'm already on record elsewhere as loving the camera. But I really do worry that it won't reach it's full sales potential if the price doesn't drop and that would be a huge shame.

Bob.


definitely not you bob, it was in response to the title of the thread

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Hi idavis,

Phew, that's a relief. But one of the delights of hanging out here is that we can express our opinions. I can think of at least one other popular forum where a thread title such as this one enjoys might have provoked discord but our CameraLabs membership is much too mature to fall into that trap. 8)

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The E-P1 does not appeal to me -- but there are plenty of retro types who will swarm to the photo shop to pick one up -- and they will get a decent camera, but it's not for me, personally.

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Each camera suits the needs and desires of the user. Obviously, there's a myriad of people that have found the EP1 to their liking, and hence the iniital strong sales. So while the EP1 maybe dumb to some people, it's the awesome for others. That being said, the EP1 doesn't suit my needs, but I am looking forward to the next Oly 4/3 or m4/3 that incorporates TrupicV. As far as m4/3 is concerned, if Oly can improve the AF speed to something comparable to the Pany m4/3 and add a EVF, then I'll be right there lining up to buy one.

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WOW! You must be bored or sad that you can't afford one!

Your like those guys on You tube that look up video's that you don't like and make "Dumb" comments about them!

Leica M8.2, you think that's worth the premium price?

Why don't you go buy that other interchangeable lens camera that's smaller than any DSLR, with low ISO IQ that's bordering on APS-C sensors, has less noise than any other 4/3's sensor and is built so well...
OH WAIT! you CANT! Because there ISN'T ONE!

E-p1 is a niche camera. It is very good at what it was designed to do. I think it demands some respect.

I certainly don't give any respect to anyone that comes online and calls any camera "dumb". "Dumbest camera of the year" is the dumbest quote of the year!

Try to be more positive.


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Hi Robbie,

I'd like to offer you a warm welcome to the CameraLabs forum but also remind you not to get personal when replying to other members threads. This is a friendly forum, unlike some, and new members weighing in "all guns blazing" are likely not to be helped much should they ask for advice in the future. :idea:

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