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Is your display calibrated
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:11 pm 
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Some few months ago, I calibrated my monitor and everything looked bad. So I went back to beforehand.

There's still a difference between my monitor and my laptop display. While the monitor's picture is more saturated, the laptop one is sharper.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:54 am 
I recently acquired a Colorvision Spyder 3 Elite (225 USD) it took only ten minutes and the difference was enormous! not only are they handy for making color accurate prints but also when adjusting the image in photoshop. before hand i was post-processing all my images way to dark so on other computers they looked awful but they looked just fine on uncalibrated monitor. Welly published a user review:

http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtop ... der++elite


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:52 am 
grahamnp wrote:
I've been looking at my Mac's display and the colours come out the way I want them, it appears to have a neutral WB and according to the built-in colour calibration utilities, it is calibrated correctly and my printer using the appropriate profiles.


Are you sending prints off to be printed or printing yourself? Mac screens have a very different gamma and white point to "PC" screens. Naturally, Mac screens are much brighter which causes no ends of problems when you go to send an image off to be printed.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:17 am 
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grahamnp wrote:

Exactly how I feel! VESA should introduce a standard calibration setting for all monitors out of the box, it doesn't have to be 100% accurate or bound to any particular colour profile but it would mean that everybody without a calibrated monitor is looking at the same image the same way.


I think thats a brilliant idea, only problem I see with it is that some companies like Sony and Apple will disregard it as they do all to many standardizations and kill the whole standard in order to sell another product thats a little more shiny.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:24 am 
Good point, I didn't think about that! Being an Apple user I should know lol.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:36 am 
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Tomis wrote:
I recently acquired a Colorvision Spyder 3 Elite (225 USD) it took only ten minutes and the difference was enormous! not only are they handy for making color accurate prints but also when adjusting the image in photoshop. before hand i was post-processing all my images way to dark so on other computers they looked awful but they looked just fine on uncalibrated monitor. Welly published a user review:

http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtop ... der++elite


I just received mine last Friday. It is great. It has sorted out both my laptops and improved slightly my iMac 24" screen.

Warning though, the device does have a cheap feel to it. The packaging is just awful and the software is ok, but not great. At the start of the installation process on my mac I was presented with some Chinese (or similar) writing, so I had to randomly press a button to try to get to the next stage. After that it is ok. On my PC, it is all in English, so seems to be a mac bug only. The screen that is in Chinese is actually a language selection screen, as I get the same screen on my PC, though in English...

I got the elite so I can calibrate all the screens I have to be exactly the same. I have not done that yet, but will post how it goes once I have done so. If you only have one screen etc, you may want to go for the pro, which is around 50 lower I think. I have heard that only the software is different...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:13 pm 
..SIDE NOTE..

If you view photos on a Pc/Mac that has a crap Graphics card then most photos you look at will look terrible, it's not just down to the screen. If in doubt check your G card capabilities.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:52 am 
Jayman69 wrote:
..SIDE NOTE..

If you view photos on a Pc/Mac that has a crap Graphics card then most photos you look at will look terrible, it's not just down to the screen. If in doubt check your G card capabilities.
:D :D


How so? Graphic card drivers may give additional functionality when it comes to colour adjustment but it's not limited by the hardware itself.


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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:24 pm 
Is there a free route to go of sufficient quality for calibrating a monitor?


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 6:00 pm 
JB wrote:
Is there a free route to go of sufficient quality for calibrating a monitor?


No.

You can tweak your monitor's gamma manually, but then how do you know that it's accurate? You can only gauge that by printing and printing is not free.

At the end of the day, investing in a £50 calibration device will save you a fortune in the long run. My general principle is this, if a calibration device costs less than 10% of your photography gear then you are really silly if you spend that much on photo equipment but are too cheap to buy the one device that will make your prints look better.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:55 am 
ive just recieved and used my colour vision s[yder2express. when you finish it allows you to do a before and after and it looked really good. although now looking through my photos im finding alot are high in contrast so i dont know wheather that poor photography or the calibrator.

this is kinda question for someone that has the spyder expess but when it starts it asks you to tick the types of variations you can make on your monitor: contrast, brightness and backlight. i want too sure on the backlight one so i left that unticked... could that be a reason for the high contrast?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:56 am 
another question... when viewing my monitor should i be looking at where the calibrator sat to get the right colour. since my monitor is LCD depending on where i sit i get a slight change in brighness and contrast.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:18 am 
thereza333 wrote:
this is kinda question for someone that has the spyder expess but when it starts it asks you to tick the types of variations you can make on your monitor: contrast, brightness and backlight. i want too sure on the backlight one so i left that unticked... could that be a reason for the high contrast?


You should read the on-screen instructions. They're concise and they're there for a reason.

LCD monitors do not have brightness or contrast controls. They only have back lighting, so make sure that's the only option that is ticked. Also, make sure that you're calibrating the screen with the caddy attached. There's a piece of green transparent plastic on the caddy that goes over the sensor. If that isn't there, the resulting profile is going to make your monitor look greenish.

I've found that after profiling, all the photos that I'd edited before calibration appear really dark and contrasty. The reason for this is simple. Before calibration, the gamma of your LCD is usually going to be really high and the contrast fairly low. When you edit your photo, you then try to compensate for this by darkening your photos, bumping up saturation, and increasing contrast. If you sent your photos to print, you'll see that it's substantially different from what you see on screen.

You're probably seeing something similar. I'd trust the calibration device, assuming that you've calibrated it correctly.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:34 pm 
Nostrum wrote:
I recommend everyone who is at least semi-serious about photography to calibrate their monitor - it ain't as expensive as you might think!

for ~100$ you get the Colorvision Spyder2Express


this is my recommendation too. quality is totally good enough for an enthusiast photographer. its extremely worth it if you watch your pictures on different screens (laptop and your main workstation for example) and want them to look the same or you want to print them.

it will also improve the "average" user experience when you show them on the internet. because with an uncalibrated monitor you adjust your images to the random properties of YOUR monitor, then the internet user looks at it on ANOTHER monitor with random settings, so the potential for some things beeing way off is bigger than if at least the picture came calibrated to a random monitor.


with the colorvision spyder 2 express software you cant really chose many settings, but it has good defaultsettings.
if you want more control and know how to use a console window, there is this free software called argyll, it does all the stuff that the "pro" software from the big manufacturers does and it works with the spyder. but its not quick and easy (but you will learn a lot about colormanagement by reading the documentation).


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:51 am 
I fully agree! Since two months I own the Spyder Pro. First of all, in my case the brightness was too high. That´s the reason the pictures I sent in to print were much too dark. Even in other software I see much more detail than before. So I can advice it to anyone to buy such a device!

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