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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:48 pm 
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I am looking for four-thirds or micro- four-third cameras that will work well with ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50-200mm F2.8-3.5. (Some have noted that this great lens, created for Olypus four-thirds, loses some autofocus speed quality on micro-four-thords. But my lens is NOT the version with SWD... and therefore I do not know if the quality of autofocus lost of just that of losing the SWD motorised quality which would not apply in my case.) I shoot a lot of kids sports and cannot afford most other high-zoom lens options that compare (bought this sued for $600)...and therefore my desire is to upgrade the camera as the E-510 is older and limited....but not at the high price / limted gain of the E-5. Are there options to use newer models that the E-510 that have viewfinder, shoot video, and have some general gains from the older Olympus E-510 (i.e. better autofocus, ISO usable range, etc). In particular, will my ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50-200mm F2.8-3.5 work (presumably with adapters) with any of the following and how well?

Olympus OM-D E-M5
Panasonic DMC-GH5 (would be my first choice in cost, video quality, bigger size. sensor size)
Sony NEX 7

Any help and advice is REALY APPRECIATED.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:21 am 
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The GH5 isn't expected to be released for another year or so. So I don't think anyone can answer that question now.

If you meant the GH3 (which has the same size sensor as the Oly E-M5), according to Panasonic's lens compatibility chart for the GH3, you basically lose Q-AF and AFC when shooting both video and stills.

The listing for the GH2 (which does have a multi-aspect sensor which is larger than the standard 4/3 sensor (when shooting in 3:2 or 16:9)) is similar.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:37 am 
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I REALLY APPRECIATE the time taken to respond to my post. It's really helpful.

Here is my current crossroad to which I appreciate ANY HELP.

I shoot a lot of kids sports - mostly outdoor (soccer, football, etc) with monopod...and invest a lot of time in Photoshop and video editing afterwards....but all on a hobby budget. I bought the Olympus E-510 several years ago when it was a good entry value. Then I bought a used ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50-200mm F2.8-3.5 (No SWD) for about $580 as so many recommended it as a great sports lens. It has been just that. Naturally it has been a matter of having invested in better glass than camera.

So now I am at a point in which I would like to get past the limits of the E-510 not in high end quality as much as simply features that so many even lower end models have - especially shooting video, but also better ISO usability for some indoor sports, sensor size, etc. (Size of camera is NOT significant....so micro-four-thirds is not a benefit in terms of smaller size.) The dilemma seems to be that few if any cameras will operate my lens effectively...in particular they would lose AF speed which would be a big step backwards in all sports shooting. From all I read, any use of 4/3 lens to m4/3 camera via adapter loses significant AF speed.) And selling my lens and re-buying another would be too costly as no lens would appear to come close to that quality without an enormously higher price. I see some high zoom micro-four thirds lenses but I assume that the jump to micro-four-thirds, plus loss of f2.8 light, plus general quality would mean some significant loss in quality. So while I prefer to change cameras in order to maintain use of such a quality lens... from all I can gather...I would lose AF speed or even functionality with any other camera. If that is the case...I would have to look at an entire shift of camera and lens. Since I could likely only get about $550 for my current camera and lenses... I would want to have new set up only total about $1000. ($400 to $500 additional).

So main crossroads: Goal of any choice is kids sports enthusiast desiring value level equipment with video potential (as many now have).Do I get more invested in a four-thirds lens (when four thirds and that lens is in particular seems to have little future)...or do I jump to micro-four-thirds when size of gear is not a factor for me and there seems to still be some limits in equal zoom / sports lens quality...or do I jump out into standard Canon / Nikon world?

Is there any more updated camera (ie. with video) that my ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50-200mm F2.8-3.5 (No SWD) could work well with that is WORTH the cost? And would it be a good choice or is getting further invested into the four-thirds line not wise at this time when so much is shifting?

I really like Panasonic for "enthusiaists" like myself, but the compatibility chart for the high feature and well value priced Panasonic DMC-GH3 (would be my first choice in cost, video quality, bigger size. sensor size) shows "quick AF operation" in photo shooting and "AF auto continuous operation" in movie shooting are not available with my lens. Compatibility notes also states: " Though AFS Mode is available, it may be lacking in sharpness in the image or taking longer than usual focusing time. In such cases, please use MF Mode or AF+MF function." I would also appear to lose any compatibility with my OLYMPUS EC-14 tele-converter.

So...if I had to choose a direction, do you have any insights or advice regarding any of the following:

Stick with the Oly E-510 and enjoy the great Zuiko lens until better choices emerge in future such as better micro 4/3 lenses

I could jump to micro-four thirds and consider
Panasonic DMC-G5KK ($500 body and lens kit)

Panasonic DMC-GH3 ($1300 body)

with a lens such as
Panasonic 45-200mm f/4.0-5.6 Lumix G Vario ($260)
Olympus M.Zuiko 40-150mm f/4.0-5.6 ($200)
Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 45-175mm/F4.0-5.6 (upper line, has power-zoom especial for movies) ($300 black - 450)
(Also: In late January 2013, Tamron announced its first ever zoom lens for Micro Four Thirds, the 14-150mm F/3.5-5.8 Di III VC. That'll let in a bit more light than the Olympus, will have built-in image stabilization, and a stopper motor, which allows for quieter focusing. Unfortunately, Tamron hasn't said anything at all about when this lens will launch, or for how much, so we may be a while from knowing if it's any good.")

I could jump out of the 4-3 / micro 4-3 world and shift to:
Canon t4i (Best Buy $900 with 18-50 lens) (Amazon $650 with 18-50 lens) (Buy.Com - $456 body only)
18MP, continuous AF for movies, Full HD
Could combine with
Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 II EX DG APO Macro HSM Canon-ef
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Amazon - shows used only at $800


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:03 am 
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I think the best option would be to wait, if at all possible, because Olympus is supposed to announce a camera specifically for people in your situation ("standard" 4/3 lens owners/users) sometime this year.

If you can't wait, IMO both the GH2 and G5 are better values than the GH3. The main problem, as you noted, is the lack of fast/bright (super)telephoto lenses.

But as you also noted, fast/bright (super)telephoto lenses on a budget aren't easy to come by. So I would go with my GH2 (or a G5) + 100-300mm lens (which would also help to compensate for the loss of the teleconverter) instead of trying to squeeze my T4i + (Sigma) 70-200mm f2.8 lens (which would be even shorter than you're used to because of the lower 1.6 crop) into a ~$1k budget.

Mark


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