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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:15 am 
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Greetings all :D

Until yesterday, I hadn't given it much thought but:

Why is one's flash options limited, when i P-mode?

As I understand it, P-mode is automatic and allows you to change settings to your liking? My flash option is set for auto with the lightning symbol, however, the flash does not pop up! It does so in "Auto"-mode no problem.

As I undersstand it from DSLRtips.com, Gordon recommends P-mode quite often, however, what's the idea of this mode, if you can't use your flash, the way you want to?

Hopes for help :)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:22 am 
Auto flash means that the camera will only use flash when it thinks its necessary. Just set it to flash on if you want to use flash and the camera doesnt.

P mode is more hands on than Auto, but the camera still in control of the picture by being in control of the depth of field. I like to use Aperture Priority mode because changes in aperture make a big difference in the photo.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:13 am 
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Atomic wrote:
Auto flash means that the camera will only use flash when it thinks its necessary. Just set it to flash on if you want to use flash and the camera doesnt.


I know, but why doesn't the camera put flash on in auto and not in P-mode, when all conditions (to me) are equal?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:24 am 
Like you say in pevius post
Auto = ful auto for flash
P = also a little auto but you have to rase the flash yourself
Becouse you can adjust so many setings that the dont raise the flash auto on the P, A, S and M mode only on youre comand it wil raise.


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Format-je wrote:
Like you say in pevius post
Auto = ful auto for flash
P = also a little auto but you have to rase the flash yourself
Becouse you can adjust so many setings that the dont raise the flash auto on the P, A, S and M mode only on youre comand it wil raise.


So, I have to raise the flash for it to decide whether it's needed or not?

What's smart about that?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:24 pm 
Correct

Thats why the call it the custem settings the P A S and M
If you wanne have light there you need to raise it by pressin the button next to the flash
If you take photo's on the scene ore auto it raise the flash if the setting in the menu is on automatic
Its possible to disable that settings of youre camera.

Good tip buy an external flash.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:50 pm 
Its possible that on auto, the camera's settings for ISO, Aperture, Shutter, EV, and white balance are different than thoses setting on P mode [most of which are set by you] so depending on the settings, the camera will need to use flash.

Best way is to just know when you need flash and when you dont, and manually set it.


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Atomic wrote:
Its possible that on auto, the camera's settings for ISO, Aperture, Shutter, EV, and white balance are different than thoses setting on P mode [most of which are set by you] so depending on the settings, the camera will need to use flash..


I tried to put setup auto and P up identically- still no auto pop up flash in P, though :x

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:30 pm 
You're a bit too hung up on this, P mode is probably more conservative with the flash.

Does the flash turn on at all if its in a very dim situation?


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Atomic wrote:
You're a bit too hung up on this, P mode is probably more conservative with the flash.

Does the flash turn on at all if its in a very dim situation?


I will test that...

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nicolaidenmark wrote:
Atomic wrote:
You're a bit too hung up on this, P mode is probably more conservative with the flash.

Does the flash turn on at all if its in a very dim situation?


I will test that...


Apparantly no change...

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I thought, I would post this reply from Olympus support regarding the flash:

Dear Nicolai,

Thank you for your query.

Yes, that is correct. If you want to use a flash in any other shooting mode than AUTO you need to push the flash button and open it manually.

Kind regards,

Jaroslav Zíka
Technical Care Specialist

I still don't see the practical in it, though....

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