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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:02 pm 
All shots were taken with kit 14-42 lens @ 42mm, f/7.1, AF on live view (E620 on constrast AF), pattern metering, tripod, 2 second delay, no flash, WB on auto, natural setting, noise reduction off, IS off, sharpness 0, contrast 0, jpg, super fine, original files straight from camera

Low natural light from window:

E510 ISO100

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/3483965466_be16a86b25_o.jpg

E510 ISO200

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3592/3483154595_4ff100491c_o.jpg

E510 ISO400

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3598/3483970980_40198526fb_o.jpg

E510 ISO800

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3357/3483159651_da72fe985f_b.jpg

E510 ISO1600

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3641/3483162083_71676f73b8_b.jpg

E620 ISO100

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3583/3483991172_8de0cbb6a2_o.jpg

E620 ISO200

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3328/3483993916_a8961208e9_o.jpg

E620 ISO400

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3353/3483997190_c4f648e903_o.jpg

E620 ISO800

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3411/3483185923_f5e09005f4_o.jpg

E620 ISO1600

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3646/3483189069_8ab06de347_o.jpg

E620 ISO 3200

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3585/3483192211_6a4e1b1227_o.jpg

With very low natural light from window with curtains down:

E510 ISO100

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3367/3483195325_ce6a4e8633_o.jpg

E510 ISO200

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3619/3483197895_758eb13c43_o.jpg

E510 ISO400

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3371/3484014218_188c186d8f_o.jpg

E510 ISO800

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3483202501_85df0fd755_o.jpg

E510 ISO1600

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3403/3484019264_a95fc0c269_o.jpg

E620 ISO100

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3581/3484023216_c0a28b470a_o.jpg

E620 ISO200

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3591/3484026270_cf2a765f3c_o.jpg

E620 ISO400

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3484029318_f61014bc84_o.jpg

E620 ISO800

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3484032296_d8c4e96395_o.jpg

E620 ISO1600

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3385/3484035264_e84ba7de68_o.jpg

E620 ISO3200

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3600/3484037962_4aa9eccdb7_o.jpg


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:00 pm 
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when i compare the second set at 1600 iso (the first set lacks the large file), the amount of noise is about the same i would say. It's a different kind, more grainy for the E620.

It would be nice to see the iso 1600 with noise reduction on low.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:04 pm 
very interesting results. the 510 definitely looks less noisy, however, on some shots i noticed that some of the shots are 1024x768 while a shot from the 620 at an equal iso setting is at full resolution. i have seen some great shots from the 620 and e-30 on flickr, these results definitely can make one change their mind. i'll be interested to see how the 620 images clean up with software such as neat image or noise ninja.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:10 pm 
Hi Hans.

When I click on the link, it does link to the original large files ...

Ok, let me go take some photos with the noise reduction set on low.

But first, here are some additional photos using different types of live view AF. My E620 seems to be having issues with the AF sensor in live view though. Whenever I press the AEL/AFL putton on live view, the mirror flips really quickly but it does not focus. And yes, I did switch the settings in the menu to the AF sensor. So I have no idea what's up with that. So I focused using the viewfinder and then switched to live view, and pressed the AEL/AFL button again before taking each shot. That's my roundabout way of using the AF sensor in live view.

I also took some shots with the sharpness increased to +2

Then I took some shots with the 14-54(I) using the hybrid AF in live view (sharpness set back to zero). All other settings are the same as the originals except that the 14-54 is at 54mm, still f/7.1.

ISO100

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3653/3483647487_8a7b60ac5d_o.jpg

ISO200

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3150/3483649871_2e2e430651_o.jpg

ISO400

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3336/3484466640_b432334628_o.jpg

ISO800

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3326/3483655681_0c728f5c6a_o.jpg

ISO1600

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3338/3484472474_9403edfa37_o.jpg

ISO100 +2 sharp

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3657/3484494168_0c2a9dfac5_o.jpg

ISO200 +2 sharp

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3561/3483677935_8ee7d7d4a8_o.jpg

ISO400 +2 sharp

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3581/3483675047_118cac4cb3_o.jpg

ISO800 +2 sharp

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3544/3483672195_82eef9d612_o.jpg

ISO1600 +2 sharp

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3336/3483669639_2483c54d1d_o.jpg

ISO100 14-54

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3611/3483722117_ec84dc5e88_o.jpg

ISO200 14-54

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3324/3484530610_e9951391a1_o.jpg

ISO400 14-54

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3563/3484522342_9b5c3d9d90_o.jpg

ISO800 14-54

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3332/3484519370_ff008fdf3e_o.jpg

ISO1600 14-54

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3606/3483695273_f99acdc396_o.jpg


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:12 pm 
Ok, my bad guys. I linked up to some of the "medium" sized images on some of the E-510 photos. Sorry!!! But I'm sure y'all get the general idea. Let me go take some photos with the noise reduction set on low, then standard, and then high.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:16 pm 
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Thank you for all the trouble!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:18 pm 
You are welcome. I just want to make sure that people who are considering the E-620 or E-30 are fully informed. Ok ... pics up in a few minutes ....


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:42 pm 
Using the 14-42 @ 42mm again, set on F/7.1; also using the contrast based AF again.

Noise Filter on Low

ISO200

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3562/3484619194_16b86be8de_o.jpg

ISO400

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3659/3483808409_9787ae1970_o.jpg

ISO800

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/3484624276_055c48ee48_o.jpg

ISO1600

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3372/3483814149_147e30f20d_o.jpg

Noise Filter on Standard

ISO200

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3316/3483816271_a8a6f9a613_o.jpg

ISO400

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3359/3484631818_4baea46d0c_o.jpg

ISO800

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3411/3484634462_fbe589ee97_o.jpg

ISO1600

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3325/3483823803_7051f30132_o.jpg


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:53 pm 
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The low setting seems rather good

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:59 pm 
Oopst, sorry. The Low setting with ISO200 was a medium size photo again. I just corrected it, and put the original large in there.

With the noise filter, the images seem even softer. I'm 90% sure I'll return it tomorrow. At this point, I think I'd rather spend the $670 on an used 50-200 or a 50 macro.

Perhaps I'll buy it again if and when prices come down, and Oly releases some updates, and people who know cameras come out with some good advice on how to optimally use the E-620.


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