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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:35 am 
One of the things which made me buy the D80 was the noise
review on here, it looks real good but my D80 at 200 ISO is a
disappointment (the only good thing is that there is no
chroma noise at least to my eye) but then I may have a bad
copy.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:02 am 
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Hello, and welcome Dmorton to the CameraLabs forum!

Did you compare your photos to others? Most of my photos on flickr (see my signature) were made with the D80 at ISO 200 minimum, the later ones (e.g. my favorites from New Zealand) are also available in the original size - and I never use additional denoising. My D80 is set to the factory default.
So find a similar picture and compare!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:28 am 
Thanks !

Ive posted one up on my flickr space, what do you think? appreciate some views.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8894938@N06/735860200/

Its a crop from a raw file at 200 ISO

Im loving this pic of yours by the way:

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id ... 183&size=l


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See a crop of "my" sky in original size here.
This seems to look only slightly better than yours.
Only thing that I would control is the jpeg-quality that you use: It should be set to fine and also check with your software, that it does save the jpeg files in best quality. Perhaps we're seeing a bit more compression artifacts in your photo, not noise!?

------ 10 minutes later -----
Ok forget my last remark: jpeg compression artifacts are more blocky not so finely grained.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:42 am 
Thanks for your reply.

Ive just done another test to compare NEF(RAW) with jpeg (fine) at ISO 200
and to my eye the jpeg (fine) is cleaner than the raw. It looks about the same as yours if not a little better where as the raw is slightly worse.


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So the in-camera RAW2JPG processing eliminates more noise than your external postprocessing software!? Or how did you come to the jpg at flickr in the first place?
Which software did you use?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:14 pm 
"Which software did you use?"
Photoshop 7 however it was a while back and I cant remember if I saved it as a best quality jpeg. But the raw image at 100% still looks quite a bit rough to compare with the fine jpeg at 100% in photoshop 7. Do you know why is that ? I would have thought I would be the other way round.


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Most RAW2JPG conversion (be it in-camera or through post-processing) includes the application of some amount of sharpening, contrast/saturation enhancing and maybe also some denoising.

Somebody out there knowing specifically about denoising when converting from RAW to jpeg?

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