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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:43 pm 
I've seen a lot of these vs. vs. posts but this one is slightly different. It's time for my first DSLR and the budget is £500. For that price, (after shopping around), I can get:

a.) Nikon D50 with 18-55mm Lens - £397
b.) Canon EOS-400D with 18-55 Lens - £499
c.) Nikon D70s with 18-55mm Lens - £499

My thoughts are the 400D offers a lot better value for money. Everyone mentions the D80 but that's way out of my price range and I can't afford it. The D50 has good reviews but it's quite old hat now (and the D40 is very crippled), the D70s has conservative colour/sharpness judgments and the EOS-400D is small.

This is a long term investment so I want to get the right brand because I'll be getting one or two lenses hopefully :). I'm not looking at non-Nikon/Canon brands because I bought a Konica Minolta not long ago and was burned when they left the market so I'm sticking to the main two.

I'm slightly inclined towards Nikon brand wise because I've got a F and F50 film wise but the Canon seems a slightly more professional camera and more modern. The D50 felt very nice to hold (comfortable) but such a small screen!

Any help/suggestions/advice is all welcome and well done on such a great site! I enjoyed the side by side reviews but they all point to the D80 which isn't much help

I posted on the Nikon forum since two of the ideas are Nikon but I'm hoping for some Canon people throwing in their view too!

Seb


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:51 am 
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Seb,

You say "I bought a Konica Minolta not long ago and was burned when they left the market".

This may not be relevant but if your decision to buy a new camera was because of a fault in your old (digital) one you might like to visit

http://www.konicaminoltasupport.com/Eng ... _en.0.html

My three year old DiMage developed a sensor fault and Sony, who bought the Konica Minolta business, offered me a full refund of the original purchase price because they felt unable to repair it in a reasonable time. Luckily I had the original receipt.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:52 am 
Thanks but my camera isn't under that - it is a A200. I would really like a new camera as I've grown tired of my old one. I went to five camera shops yesterday and I have narrowed my choice to a D50 or EOS-400D. No one seems like the 400D and it gets critised a lot. It strikes me the D50 is older technology and will be dated sooner than the 400D.

The D80 is out of my price change so what recommendations does anyone have?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:03 am 
How about a D70S? There are still some of these around, Jessops are selling the body with the Nikkor 18-70mm lens for 499 pounds.

Just picked up a D70S myself, imported the 18-200mm DX VR lens too.


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Hi Seb, welcome to the forums!

'no-one seems to like the 400D'?

Crumbs, that's a bit harsh! It's a fantastic DSLR and highly recommended. The only reason the D80 beats it in reviews is becuase it's a slightly higher-end camera with a price difference to match. If you can afford the D80 - and crucially - would exploit its extra features, then it's the better choice. But if you can't afford it, or wouldn't make use of its extras, then the 400D is a superb camera to go for.

As you've realised though, a DSLR that was recommended a couple of years ago doesn't suddenly become a turkey. So if you find a good price on a D50 or D70s, then they're also good choices, but I'd be looking for a great deal. It's a highly competitive buyer's market right now.

But if you've narrowed it down to between the D50 and 400D, my vote would be for the 400D.

Gordon

PS - just to confuse you further though, if you're also looking at older, dicounted models, don't forget the 350D. Check out our Buyer's Guide at

http://www.cameralabs.com/buyers_guide/budget_DSLRs/


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:14 am 
I eventually managed to push out and get a D80 with 18-70mm lens. I loved the feel of it so much more than the EOS-400D and I couldn't face getting nearly a two year old model so I'm ecstatic as you can imagine!

Thanks for your help and I'm sure I will be back soon.

Seb


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Congrats!
I'm shure that you'll be a happy D80 user and feel no regret about the extra budget that you invested...

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Hi Seb, good choice.

The D80's a great camera, and as you'd have seen on the review, the 18-70mm is a superior 'kit' lens. Don't become a stranger now you've bought it though! Come back and tell us how you're getting on with it and advise other people wondering about their first DSLR!

Cheers!

Gordon


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Hey Seb,
it's time for your first appraisal of your new acquisition!
And don't tell us, the weather was to bad to take some first shots...

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