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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:39 pm 
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I am very new user to DSLR,s with just 3 months of practise but with the Old camera NIKON D3100. Basically i am interested in wild life photography and own Basic Kit lens Nikon 18-55MM f3.5-5.6G VR l and Nikon 55-200 mm VR f/4-5.6G lens and Tamron 18-270mm F/3.5 6.3 Di II VC PZD lens.
I have been shooting in M manual mode making sure the exposure composation is at '0' stop but still the photos doesnot seems to be Sharp and Crisp or the way i really want.

I have read the thumbrule of wildlife photography is the same shutter speed than the focal length of your lens, i.e. 1/270s with a 270mm lens or 1/55s with an 55mm lens,where you can get an image with much less noise and better quality but i cannot set the shutter speed to 1/270th second or higher during the DUSK or the DAWN so do i have to increase the ISO but if i do so i think i have to compensate on the Quality of the Picture can you suggest what should be ideal combination and does this rule of 'Shutter speed and Focal Length' should always be followed and if so what changes are required to take the good snap kindly help..

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:32 pm 
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Hi Sunil.
Shutterspeed/focal length, is more of a guide & mainly a guide to not slowing your speed below the focal length, which can introduce blur.
VR helps a lot with that though, provided the subject isn't moving. VR will not freeze motion.

You may be able to get away with around 250th second on static birds (you'll need faster if it's breezy & feathers are blowing though) & 1000th+ sec for birds in flight.

tbh, with the slowish lenses you have (F5.6-F6.3) you're going to struggle in dim light. The only way is to up the ISO, which then increases `noise`.
It's a case of finding a happy medium/balance. Better a noisy in focus image than a `clean` out of focus image!

Using a tripod or monopod helps.

The only real way to get cleaner images with lower ISO is to invest in `faster`(F2.8-F4) lenses, but they aint cheap!

300mm is usually about the minimum length needed for birding.

(Don't know where you are, or if you have any funds, but the Nikon AF-S 70-300mm VR lens is great for the money http://www.digitalrev.com/product/nikon ... MTIxOQ_A_A )

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:57 pm 
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Also, if you're shooting at speeds around 300th sec or above, turn VR off.

You could try setting the auto focus to AF-C & single point/spot.
Also try setting the metering to `centre weighted`

re EV (exposure compensation) if the subject is against a darker background try -EV. If the subject is against a lighter BG (eg bird in a tree top against a bright sky) try some +EV.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:06 pm 
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Thankyou for the advise.. have not yet fiddled around much with ISO will definately try and also i always keep the VR on so will try and keep the VR off to freeze the motion but am v bad in application will remeber that now :)

AF-Continious single point yes will try doing that and also will try more with Aperture priority bcoz the woods where i frequently visit is an Tiger habitat along with Deers, Gaurs, Fox,s , Elephants and Dhols so have not been lucky till now to capture these animals in fast motion rather they will be lazing around near the water holes or Grazing next to the road and also definately try Birds with Shutter priority mode and will see how it turns up Thanks again for your thoughts..

will come bck with questions sooner or later :)

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:33 am 
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Sunil, just try a few different settings & find out which works for you.

Presumably you're in N. India? so much of the time will have some really strong sunlight, just raise your shutter speed when needed. Don't forget to dial in some -EV when needed too (also good for sunrise/sunset shots)

If you're shooting larger static animals in shaded areas, VR should help you out then. (not that I'd dare trying it out in the forests with tigers about! :shock: :lol: )

Good luck & let us know how you get on.
Post a couple of pics too. 8)

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:58 pm 
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Carlos yes i stay in Bangalore Southren Part of india but comparitively less Hotter compared to N india but indeed the days are brighter :) i keep visiting my Farm frequently which is 3hrs drive from Bangalore and Westren Ghats- B.R Hills - Bandipur is around 40 minutes drive from my farm where i take all my snaps..
my next planned visit is the next weekend 14th to 17th of march definately will try out things as suggested and will post few pics too.. and i do have some Pics from my previous visit my second try on the wildlife photography that was during 2nd week of Feb i thought it has come out good but they are very bad few are Over exposed, few are under exposed, there are lot of flaws in it.. but anyway i will try to post it here so that i can learn what needs to be done from pros and exp guys like you..

http://www.flickr.com//photos/119772491@N02/show/

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:12 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:10 pm 
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Sunil, some good shots there & if the shutter speed had been faster, I think you would have noticed a BIG difference in sharpness. (1/20th sec is way too slow)
Looks like a wonderful place you have there to shoot wildlife. 8) I'm very envious!

Visited Northern India a couple of times, but not South of Karnataka (Belgaum & Sankeshwar) or Goa. Would love to go back again some day. Ooty & Kerala is on my list.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:55 pm 
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Carlos

If you are planing south india then its a good place for wild life photography.. and if you are planing for ooty and kerala then my Farms located after mysore and on the ooty Kerala Highway.. if you have no problem then please let me know so that you can join me for a day or 2 so that you can explore Ranganathittu Bird Sanctuary- B R hills - Bandipur and near by places and stay at my Farm House..

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