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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:30 am 
Hey,

here I am again..
This time with a question about nightclub photography.

Nowadays I shoot at (crowded) parties, and I'm finding the 18-105 too 'crappy' for this, I want some nice DoF and better sharpness in my pictures. So I'm planning to upgrade (also because my 50mm 1.8D is too much zoomed for this kind of photography).

First I wanted to buy the 35mm 1.8 almost directly, after reading some good reviews about it. But now I'm thinking it would be also not wide enough for this kinda photography..(?)

So maybe the Nikon 28mm 2.8 AF (haven't read alot about it), or something else? (price range 0-300€)

Got some tips?
Thanks in advance


Joren.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:35 am 
Hmm this is a tricky one. If you find the 35mm too much you'll want wider than this. Your kit lens is also f3.5 when this wide, which isnt too far from f2.8 so chances are f2.8 wont be enough if you dont find the kit lens sufficient. There arent many options in this price range for a f2 or faster prime of the required focal length.

Sigma make a 28mm f1.4 I think which might be an option, although its not too much wider than the 35mm


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:57 am 
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Sigma makes: 20 - 24 - 28 /1.8 lenses.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:07 pm 
Ah yes I meant f1.8, didnt realise they had a 20 and 24 though, they may well be lenses to look into


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:38 pm 
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Haha, I read so fast I didnt even see you had the aperture wrong :oops: I dont understand why Nikon doesnt bring us a set up like this for DX, hope that will come sooner than later too.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:41 pm 
I know, Id love a 12mm, 24mm and 85mm DX set priced and built as per the 35mm or 50mm


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:45 pm 
First of all thanks for the fast replies..

Secondly, I didn't say the 35mm 1.8 is too wide, I'm more like questioning this.. Do you think it's possible to make group shots of about 5 people with the 35mm?

I also forgot to say that I recently found a Nikkor 24mm 2.8 AF-D and a Nikkor 28mm 2.8 AF (second hand) in that price-range. So I'm also considering those lenses.

(And last but not least, keep in mind that the 18-105mm kit lens has F4.0 at 24mm-28mm.)


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Try it out, set your 18-105 to 35mm (24 or 28mm is also an option to try) and see if you can fit 5 people in the frame the way you like.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:32 pm 
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Close quarters are very tough: If you don't have enough space you long for a zoom. And as it's dark you long for a large aperture.
So as f/2.8 zooms are the max you'll get you have to decide what is more important for you:
- dof and subject isolation?
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- flexibility with "only" f/2.8?

Now: What is it?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:44 pm 
Yea, probably flexibility with 2.8..
But I tested it out, I think it's possible to fit like 5 ppl in the frame with a 35mm at a decent distance.

So maybe I'll just use the 35mm and if it's not wide enough I can still swap to my 18-105. (Hopefully I don't need to do that too much..)

Any other advice?


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It really depends on the size of the room. But also remember if you buy a wider lens then you need you can always walk forward. Whereas if your lens is not wide enough it may be hard to step back.

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"you can always walk forward" or crop.
A stabilized 24-70/2.8 would be a pretty good instrument for your needs.
But alas, so such lens exists :cry:
Btw.: A Sigma AF 24mm 1.8 EX DG Asp Macro is not a bad lens (and works on a FX-body too). Price is around 450 EUR (incl. 19% VAT).

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Perhaps the Nikon 20mm F2.8 AF or the 24mm F2.8 AF. On a crop frame body that would range anywhere from 30-36mm, which should be good enough. The 28mm F2.8 AF I think would be too long, as it would be about 42mm which would barely fit 4 in the frame.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:09 am 
Why not the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8?


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Because of distortions on group shots

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