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 Post subject: New D5000?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:13 pm 
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So I've noticed the buzz about the D3100 replacing the D3000, does this mean we will soon see a replacement to the D5000? I've been itching to get a new camera and the D5000 was towards the top of the list, but now I'm not sure since the D3100 came out with higher mp, I'm waiting impatiently for a review of it compared to the D5000. However the software that comes with the Canon T1 so you can basically run the camera from a computer is tempting me to go that way, but the Nikon has better high ISO images if I remember right which is important to me. How does the T2 stack up against the D5000? Any suggestions from this mess of a message

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:19 am 
I don't think you will hear about any D5000 replacement soon. Nikon normally replaces their SLRs once every 2 years at the least so the D3100 was a bit odd. I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the extra pixel count of the 3100, the noise performance and other things remain to be seen but the megapixel count alount won't count for much.

What about the D90? It's even more capable than the D5000 and it's at its cheapest now.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:54 pm 
I dont know there will ever be a D5000 replacement as such. What would you be looking for in it that the D3100 doesnt have?


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It's not that I'm looking for anything else, but if a new one comes out it may have a better sensor is my only thought. Video isn't important to me as long as it does it, but if it does video better than the D5000 that is a plus. If the ISO noise is better or the same than the D5000 in the D3100, is that something that would make it more desireable than the D5000? Isn't the D90 still a couple hundred more than the D5000?

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In Canada, I can get a D90 for the body only for 'bout $670, and a D5000 body for around $570. In my mind, the extra $100 is one heck of a good investment! The D90 offers so much more over the D5000, although that doesn't mean that the D5000 is a slacker, it's still a great cam. If I were you, I'd go for a D90, a 35mm F1.8 Nikkor and an SB-400 flash. You can get it all for about $1100 in Canada.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:37 am 
If you can afford it, I would definitely go for the D90 :)
That extra money gives you AF for a lot more lenses than the D5000 and unless you need that articulated screen, the D90's LCD is much better.


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@EvanK

you are lucky, in my country it goes for like 400$-500$ more (kit lens 18-55) and cant buy it differently (or i just don't know where)

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Why should you buy a flash with the new camera? :shock:
I use almost never the flash, and when I do, I use the built-in one with -2EV flash compensation, so why should he buy a flash?
And why the 35mm? I think the best start is with the 18-105Vr, it gives descent quality and you can see what focal length youre using.
The 35mm as first and only lens isnt the most logically to start with.

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What about the D90 is so much better than the D5000? Is it that the autofocus will work with any lens where with the D5000 the lens has to have af? I'm not sure what about it is better. Right now I have a panny FZ28 and it takes decent pictures if the light is good. It's apurture at it's biggest is 2.8 where with a dslr, let's use the D90 for and example, the lens' largest aperture is 3.5 down to 5.6, but the sample images show a much smaller aperture for the outdoor shots. I guess I'm confused with where this number comes from. Can I use a faster shutter with a smaller aperture with a dslr compared to my fz28? I know the dslr has a larger and more sensitive sensor but it has a smaller aperture. Does the more sensitive sensor allow a smaller aperture and still have a fast shutter? :(

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if you are referring to gordons review pictures take note of the iso settings on the d90 when outdoor, higher iso means smaller apreture, if you mean how "bright" they look, if you are confused about the f5.6 being smallest apreture its not, the smallest apreture on 18-55mm lenses are f22 if im correct?, the f5.6 mark is the biggest apreture possible when the lens is zoomed out..

the sensor is not the one that gives you ability to take faster shutter speeds, its the cameras possibility to have high quality pictures at high iso settings, and ofc the shutter depends on your light, if its super sunshine you might need f22 and 1/1000 speed sometimes, or maybe you are in shadow and cant go that fast since there is much less light...

hope i cleared something

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I'd simply get an external flash because you can do bounce flash, and you get a much further range. Using a bounce flash can even give you the same results as no flash at all, plus you can use a lower ISO.

The reason that I'd recommend the 35mm F1.8 is because it's much sharper, and I'd rather go for an F1.8 over a VR lens any day. Also, the 35mm will force you to get closer to subjects instead of just zooming in, making you a better photographer. Also, I just so happen to live in the coldest major city in the world, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada. In the winter, the plastic on a kit lens may cause the lens to fall off, which is not good at all. I like the metal mount on the 35mm.

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In Gordon's review of the D90 it says "Finally, Nikon has introduced a new kit lens for the D90: the AF-S DX Nikkor 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR." I don't claim to know anything about lenses because my camera doesn't use separate lenses, but it looks like the aperture is 3.5 to 5.6, but in the sample photos you are talking about, the first photo of the sail boat has an aperture of f9. I'm sure there is something more to it that I don't understand just yet. Thanks for the help. I'm still not sure what the advantage the D90 has over the D5000 or for that matter the D3100. I know we don't have any test results for the D3100 yet though.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:06 am 
The maximum aperture is 3.5 at 18mm and 5.6 at 105 but there is no need t shoot at the maximum, stopping down to f/9 gives greater DOF and possibly sharpness.


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Thanks graham, yeah, I understand the dof, I just didn't know where the numbers were coming from. Thanks for the help.

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