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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:15 pm 
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Such as this photo:

http://mdezemery.zenfolio.com/p83167564 ... #813780947


I learned it's possible to do so with aperture wide open and flash (so the background would be drastically underexposed), but that will only work for macro photography right? What if i want to shoot a red truck with a black background?

Any idea is greatly appreciated!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:35 pm 
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I haven't shot a "truck" so to speak or anything that big. But then you would need an equal lightning all over the truck or object that you want. And then use the aperture and shutter speed to control the amount of light absorbed by the sensor.

I have done alot of still life on black

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Those were all done with controlled ligh

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:42 pm 
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alex168 wrote:
I haven't shot a "truck" so to speak or anything that big. But then you would need an equal lightning all over the truck or object that you want. And then use the aperture and shutter speed to control the amount of light absorbed by the sensor.


Alex,

Thanks for the tips!

Does larger aperture make bigger difference between the brightness of the object and background?

I have no experience at all about external lighting control. Should I buy a Maglite and ask someone to hold it while I'm shooting?

Thanks again!

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Apereture makes HUGE diff in the amount of light intake, its probably the biggest factor along with ISO

here are the set ups for those shots

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You can use the aperture and flash to control the amount of background light entering the camera but I think the black backgrounds in the example link you provided are just done with a black backdrop.

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now what about this, you put the car in a dark garage, then you turn off all the lights, block the windows and all. This will take a LOT of practice and tries, but set a really long shutter speed, and then walk around the car with a very bright light, lighting it in a way that will bring out certain features, but don't let the light touch the background or you, and it will be a black background.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:26 pm 
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Thanks everyone for the ideas! I will try the car in dark garage thing once I get the chance.

Here's the photo I was referring to.

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Did the shooter use an external lighting source? Or were the effects created by some sort of flash?

I have another question that may be a little off topic here: Do I have to use the ring flash for macro photography? I just got a normal flash (Olympus FL 36) and I can't seem to point the flash directly to the object right in front of the lens.

Thanks again!!

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***This is NOT my photo. I saw it on DPR forum and saved it to my computer. I can't find the original link anywhere. It's for educational purpose only, I will remove the photo as soon as I get what I wanted to know.***


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I'll remove this once you've reviewed the technique. Here's my dissection of the lighting:

Dissected image removed. Illustration remains below.

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Darkness is shown by the black scribbling. You can read more about off-camera flash from an entry in my blog.

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Nice dissection Ed. 8) And without any anaesthesia!!! :lol: :lol:

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Photoj,

Thanks for the explanation!!!

It seems the lighting is the key here. Need to learn more about it..

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Don't Remove things >_<

what if I wanna look at it in the future? - Keep it as is =) keeps the archieves nice and tidy so when im looking back stuff is still where I remember it.

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It wasn't my image and I don't know how the shooter would feel about it.

But if you want I can send the images to you by email. (original + the one from Photoj with explanations)

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Sorry to bump this up, but I was at a show the other week and there was a photographer there taking photos of chickens. The chicken was placed in front of a blue background (big piece of dark blue paper) and then the photo was taken.

With the advantage of being rather tall, I peeked over his shoulder and took a look at the image review. The chicken was in full colour and the background was black.

Does it work on the same principle?


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what if I wanna look at it in the future?
This is what?

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