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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:18 pm 
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Hi

I'm thinking about going into analog photography, I really like the process of developing film
I'll probably develop negatives and scan them at first.

Anway do any of you do develop your own film?

I know some about the process, I tried it out a lot of years ago. But I didn't get the measurements or how you determine how long it has to develop etc. Pouring liquids into a tank and starting the stopwatch is easy, but there is a lot more in it
But is it expensive?
Do you tend to mess up the film at first or is it easy to get good results?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:38 am 
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Hi,

I plan to develop some b&w film at home. I bought a Patterson dev kit: tank, two reels which can do 120 too apparently, measuring cylinders, film clips, thermometer , squeegee for about 50 UKP. I also needed a changing bag and some chemicals, I guess this is another 60 UKP.

I have a few 35mm films on the go in various cameras and when these are finished I intend to develop them myself.

I did finish some rolls previously but it always turned out that I'd taken a few images that I considered important and ended up sending them off for processing! I guess it's a confidence thing :D

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:24 am 
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Did you scan them yourself?

A dedicated 135 scanner (35 mm film) is at 3200x3200 dpi, a flatbed scanner that does 6x6 medium format is 1200x1200, and I'm not very good at the math, but I think it adds up to the image will end up being a the same resolution than the 6x6 - it just seems rediculus


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:39 pm 
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As I stated above I haven't developed any yet! I have however scanned some of the HP5 I sent out for development. I used my father's epson v500 flatbed scanner and the result are good. I printed one of the scans at A4 and it's on my wall. There is noticeable grain from the 400ISO film but that's one of the reasons to shoot film right?

I plan to get an epson v600 for myself if I stick with doing film alongside my digital.

Blurb from epson says resolution is 6400x9600dpi not sure if that's marketing talk or true resolution but it sound promising for the 220 UKP they are charging!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:07 pm 
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I developed black & white film at school, as part of a journalism class, in 1975 and 1976, shortly after the last T. Rex walked the earth. :wink:

I recently acquired some Nikon film SLR cameras, and my wife still has her Olympus film SLR cameras. I find myself developing an interest in medium and large format film. My wife and I would like to construct a "wet" darkroom some time in the next few years, a likely post-retirement project for me.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:31 pm 
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Well I think that it would make sense to go medium format, if you want to develop yourself.
If the film and image sensor seizes are the same, then you don't really benefit much from analog.

But with medium format you will be abel to make images in such detail you wouldn't be abel to on your DSLR, unless you sell your house to afford a medium format digital sensor. As for 35 mm I might, to some degree, as well use a b+w preset in Lightroom - but miss out on the fun of the process of developing the images.

So I would consider it for the images I make when I really want to put some extra work into it, and the DSLR more for everyday photography, where I take tons of pictures. And maybe if one comes out really great, and I want to print in a very large format, I will come back to that spot and redo it with analog.

But large format 4x5 it seems like a lot of hard work, and time consuming, I'm afraid I just might end up not using it at all. But it does seem very interesting and if b+w is something that really catches my interest, then I will try that out as well.

Do you know what medium format to go for. People say hasselblad, but it's like if you are looking for a new car and people say buy a Ferrari


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:23 pm 
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I have been looking at the fuji rangefinder MF cameras on eBay. I would still like a smallish body but am still not convinced by 6x4.5. I guess my dream would be a mamiya 7 but they still cost a load.

I guess it's down to automation, from a box with a shutter to metering to auto focus it all cost more :D

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:59 pm 
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I've thought about the mamiya 645, but it seems a bit clumsy
Or their RZ72 but it's really heavy.
They cost a fraction of Mamiya 7, but less auto settings - non actually, but I think it automatically winds the film after each shot.
However it's not like a DSLR where the image sensor goes obsolete, because you change image sensor each time you change a roll of film, and the lenses I guess are pretty much the same.
So I don't think you get better image quality. However it seems a bit easier to use and less clumsy, and that's worth taking into consideration

The charm of b+w is to some extend that it's old school, a longer process and the imperfection of it. DSLR you can just push the trigger and spray, end up with hundreds of images and if you get a good image is often down to luck, more than skills

I think the important thing is to start shooting, even if it's with some old rusty crappy camera from your basement

I'm really looking foreword to it.
Hope you get started as well


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