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 Post subject: Rearrange the Scene?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:53 pm 
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Do you move stuff around or simply shoot whats there? I'm inclined to leave stuff alone, but the road side marker in the center of this snap is kind of a bust- to me. You?

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 Post subject: Re: Rearrange the Scene?
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What an awesome image you've got! I love how the light is hitting the river!

Yes, I would remove that road marker too, and some other stuff to make the image more "clean".
I feel like it's dragging your attention away from the beautiful river…

I circled the stuff I would remove, hope you don't mind ;)
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 Post subject: Re: Rearrange the Scene?
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I personally like it there, it shows how the river flows, in what direction the sun was shining, or where are birds looking at...

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The pole in the centre of the image? Clone it out, definitely. It is very distracting.

Normally I would strive to find a position to shoot from that doesn't have any distracting elements but in some cases that just isn't possible. Moving would mean loosing other vital elements of the image. Its a great shot and a slight tweak will make it even better.

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If the ravens Yoully and Dually (names of old tv ad talking beer mugs) weren't there posing for me, it would have been easy to crop to the right side of the road side marker and have a cleaner snap. In pursuit of improvement, another snap was taken from up the hill behind me. There was a cleaner snap higher up but during the time it took to get up there, Yoully and Dually had moved on. Without those two, the content was not as good. I will clean up this snap when CS6 finds it's way onto my computer. Wonderful and greatly appreciated insight here provided by photog Victor Hoffman on improving content in post processing.

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After thinking about Victor Hoffman's insightful comments and reading an essay on Artistic License here, the answer for me at least to my original question has emerged- rearrange the scene. Using Artistic License has not been one of my learning priorities. In trying to develop an eye and understand the mechanics of photography, my inclination has been to try producing faithful photographic recordings. To document. This is not only difficult- in reality, it is not possible. Photographs reduce three dimensional scenes to two dimensions. To hold that a photograph is an accurate record of a scene is to side step this basic fact- this license...

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