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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:58 pm 
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Reading other thread about the new product cycle which was typical 18 months, reminded me of Intel P1s P2s previously.

So I kind of applied the same to cameras, computers vs cameras.

Bear with me..

Compacts are like Notebooks - you decide what you need before buying as upgrade is not an option.

Pro cameras are like Sun systems, Servers , high end, not the consumer market.

DSLR are like desktops.

Being a desktop you can basically make it a DIY , mix and match as you like.

Processors would be like sensors.
Motherboard would be like Bodies.
Graphics would be like lenses.

So hopefully, once and if the 3rd parties comes in and start producing mass market for it , we would be able to mix and match our own design of cameras ! That will be cool then !

What do you think Gordon ? Any logic in what I was blabbing about ?

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Interesting idea David!

I'd say one thing - before digital we all kept our cameras for years or even decades, but now we have digital, the manufacturers have persuaded us into upgrading every few years - like PCs!

Ultimately if the camera quality is good enough, then it's all down to whether they can tempt you into upgrading with new features like Live View.

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Thoughtful analogy. If that's the case in a few years then I'll take the full frame sensor from the Canon 1Ds MIII, and put it in the body of the Oly E410, install the VGA screen of the Sony alpha700, use the flash system of the Nikon SB800 and give it the shooting and focusing speed of the 1D MIII. Ahhhh....someday.

What's your dream setup?

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Interesting analogy David. I would like the 1Ds Mark III's sensor, 1D Mark III's shooting speed, D3/D300's focusing, live-view, metering and screen(tempered glass:wink:) all in a weather sealed D80 body.

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In the analogy between DSLRs and DIY-desktop computers, the following holds:
CPU = body, because this determines which other essential components you have to buy
motherboard = lens, because you have to buy a motherboard/lens that fits your CPU/body. And there are different motherboard manufacturers/3rd-party lenses to make something fitting your CPU/body
software = flash, because it works on most CPUs, but better with some manufacturers

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While you're building franken-cameras, no-one's mentioned which lens mount they'd want!

So if you could have any body - or combination of parts to build the dream body - which lens mount would you go for? Presuming you're only allowed one.


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""franken-cameras", tse, tse...
We want only one universal mount, big enough for FF/FX sensors!
Just like USB on computers.

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My camera would have a built-in f1.8 10-300mm lens so no need for a mount for me.

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Hey zorro, you forgot the computer analogy:
Just like a 4GHz Quadcore Laptop with 2900XTX crossfire graphics, eh!

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Aye, and Windows Vista to eat up all that processing power, lol.

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Hey Zorro, is that 10-300mm on a cropped sensor or full frame?!

And is the stabilisation in the lens or body?!

Ho ho!


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Since we're dreaming, how about that 10-300mm f/1.8 lens being a pancake lens similar to the Pentax one. To accommodate the pancake style and zoom let's create a liquid based lens whose density changes based on electrical pulses to allow for extreme zooming without extending barrels. Oh yeah, it's on a FF system.

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We could all just take acid and be done with it, lol.

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I'd like a Canon/Nikon lens mount. A Canon lens mount with a built in adapter to take the Nikon lenses. It can retract or something when not in use. Like that would ever happen.... /sigh

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Hi all and thanks for the 'dreaming together' :lol:

Casing = Body
Processor = Sensor (FF/DX/4/3rds are like Intel / AMD / Cyrix / Samsung(Mobile))
Motherboard = Lens (AGP/ PCI / PCI-E) , so if you have a motherboard thats have all, then you can use all lenses, !

As for other features like live-view, would be like adding a video capture or software, i prefer software though - easier to install or uninstall. Ha ha
I guess only those who have gone thru the phases and are computer 'nerds' knows what I'm blabbing :wink:

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