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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:12 pm 
Hi guys,


I'm thinking about buying a macbook pro 15" since the 17" is too expensive for me.
So I'm probably going for the cheapest 15", but is there a big difference in high rez and non-rez?

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High rez vs Non rez

its 1680p vs 1440p

High Rez for an apple is not high at all!

Dont get fooled by Apple, their "low price" isnt low at all! if u look at the Specs they use cheaper parts than others....

I'd say go for an HP Envy 15" 1190eo its about 20x faster and 100% better cooling, and the price is a lot lower! and almost the same design!

Specs for it vs macbook pro 15
Intel Core i7 820 or 720
ATI Radeon HD5830 vs Nvidia Geforce GT330M
4GB DDR3 1333Mhz (16GB Total Support) vs 4GB DDR3 1066 (8GB Total Support)
HDD/SDD anysize (the same)
2x USB 3.0 vs 2x USB 2.0
eSata vs none
both have SD card reader
HP is Magnesium
Full HD resolution (1920x1200) vs Regular (1440x900)
Apple Price = $2,199.00
HP Price = $1,469.98

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HP runs cooler never gets above 60*C
Apple overheats (personal experience and reviews) Gets above 80*C; Reason: only air outtakes and no air intakes!

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I've got the MacBook Pro 15.4" i7 8)
High res or not? There is not a huge difference and after my opinion i would save the 100 USD.

One of my friends actually got that HP Envy and we did a comparison between the two using Photoshop CS5, and the startup/shut down speed.
In CS5 there wasn't the big difference. MBP 7 sec faster at startup and 12 at shutdown.

I haven't done a proper speed/performance test though.

My GeekBench score is between 6450-6330

And btw the new Mac Pro with 12 cores (24 threads) scored 30889, holy ****!!! :shock:

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:49 pm 
Do you really want a MacBook Pro? And why?


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a Mac Pro is also insanely priced! also just uses consumer graphics.... 2x 5770 or 1x 5870

Funny thing is that the best PC's are always 50% cheaper and 50-60% faster than the best Mac....and people still goes for mac when they know about this fact. :S We live in a weird world ^^

Why not Tesla cards or FireGL cards?!? if it should be called "Pro"

Its more expensive than a Canon EF 800mm f5,6L IS USM!! (would buy the lens instead if u ask me, if I had to choose)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:20 pm 
Exactly...you pay for the Mac software...& you end up getting beginner level laptop performance at a insane price.
I would recommand a HP laptop with Windows 7 installed. That is,if you want quality & don't want to waste money for nothing.


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No offense Maj.Homer, but do you even know how insane the Mac Pro's are?

As far as i know they are meant for heavy duty graphic design, video, music and photo editing.
I mean they are not meant for gaiming :lol: .

I dont know any thing special about specs and which gaphics card are better than the other, but i have tried a Mac Pro and been blown away by the power...

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Apple, yes you pay for the design and software. I think it's worth it...
I would say you should go for the MBP, you will NOT be disappointed.


I admit that I am a HUGE Apple fanboy...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:43 pm 
reasonable example: I can get a laptop in my country for 1/3 the price of a MacBook Pro,with the same processor,memory,hard drive & other things. :) Mac don't have better screens compared to let's say Dell or HP.
I want to hear one logical reason for buying an Apple. btw,if anyone thinks Snow Leopard is superior to Win7,you should dig into this more


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I like it better. To me it seems at lot more simpel, but that's just me :D
I also like to pay for the design. Again that's me and my opinion.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:21 am 
Just ran a test of that GeekBench thing on my 'apparently' old HP. Got the score 2800 something.. Hmmmmmm


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Apple does make ok photo screens though, but u cant compare apple's screens with EIZO or NEC ^^

There's an even more powerful computer than a Mac Pro for a better price..

Havent u seen Nvidia's Tesla?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/personal_s ... uting.html

Those + HP Blade Servers were used in the making of Avatar :P

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Actually the graphics cards that Apple chose to put in Mac Pro, which are: 2x Radeon HD 5770 or 1x HD 5870.... Those graphics card made by AMD are actually made for gaming. I still dont get why Apple put "Gaming grade" graphics into a "Professional Computer" :S


At least put a ATI FireGL or Nvidia Tesla card in it. Those are made for Graphics Design, Design in general, Video editing and such!

And they really should lower their ridiculous prices

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There are various reasons why someone would prefer one product over another and they are not all technical or price based.

Canon Vs Nikon?

When you buy a MB Pro the price you pay includes the machine the operating system and a fully integrated suite of software:
iPhoto, a library for your photos with geo tagging and face recognition
iTunes, a library for your music, videos, podcasts, books
Garageband, a full multi track recording studio with a guitar teacher a piano teacher and backing band
iMovie, a video editing suite with built in effects
iDVD, a dvd creation package
Mail, an email client
iCal, an diary package
Address book, a place to store contact details

Upgrade price from Windows XP to Windows 7 between £65 and £105
Upgrade from Mac OS 10.5 to 10.6 £23
(PC World web prices)

If you will never use any of the above the fact these are on the machine and not trial but full versions of software is of no interest to you then you are paying for something you will never take advantage of.

When you compare the prices of computers look at the total cost of the machine over it's lifetime, how much will other software packages you use cost, how much will operating system upgrades cost, how much will anti virus software cost. Will what you pay for the machine today be the same as you have paid after five years of running it?

If you want the fastest bang for your buck then building your own machine from scratch will be your best bet, if you want the manufacturer to worry about the hardware and software then you have a range of options.

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lol, iTunes..... the worst program I ever used, its just a annoying way of putting songs in ur MP3 player....

Winamp - Thats the way to roll!

Windows 7 is very easy to crack so to say :) but mine are all legal nowadays if u ask me :)
Windows 7 is more compatible!

Well I got my Win7 Enterprise X64 for $4 :) (University price)

ye its pretty much like: Canon vs Nikon ^^ it never ends xD

In my case, Software costs me nothing, Anti-Virus costs me nothing (I got 7 license keys from Symantec for free)... Operating system upgrades: costs me very little.

5 years running a computer? that's nuts, who is that tolerant?

I know my Uncle is still super tolerant using his Intel Pentium 166 for serious works hahaha

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