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The SSD inside the EEE is a PCI Express module.

That's a shame. I wasn't aware, up to now, that such modules existed. Thanks for the feedback.

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Hi Phil, I just installed XP on the Eee - no compression or streamlining yet. It launches and connects to a Wifi network in just under a minute...


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My slowdowns came when I patched a full install of SP2. Before that I was getting similar results to you. After patching it took over 2 minutes to boot up and have a live wifi connection.

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I've never been one to leave a perfectly good, working PC alone so I'm going to do some more tweaking today. I'm going to back up my current XP install using Ghost then try to get a better installation of XP using nLite. I'd like to get the Widows firewall working along with TCP/IP printing, both of which don't work at the moment.

Edit: After 3 installs of XP, none of which worked properly, I've gone back to my original nLited install thanks to Ghost. I'll be interested to hear how you get on with the full XP installation Gordon.

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Karen was at work yesterday morning so I had a chance to do some more tweaking. I used nLite to create an XP Home SP2 CD with the SP2 update pack from xable.net slipstreamed in. I installed the OS. The Windows folder was 988Mb with 8556 files in it. Startup times seemed OK so I went ahead with the next step.

On Friday I found out about a program called XPlite that allows you to tweak an XP installation after it has been installed. It allows a similar level of customisation to nLite but you don't have to keep on recreating ISOs. You can simply uninstall and reinstall around 150 components of Windows. The only downside is it is not free. I decided to take a punt and register which cost $39.95. I used it to remove a number of components, reducing the Windows folder down to 681Mb and 5805 files. I still had all the functionality I was after and startup times were good so I went ahead and activated XP and installed the remaining updates along with IE7. I then did some more tweaking, including reducing the size of dllcache (using XPLite) and got the Windows folder to its current state of 797Mb with 6979 files. I have 89 of 150 Windows components installed and a fully working OS with all the capabilities I need. I'm happy with that.

I've installed Firefox, OpenOffice, Skype, PC Tools Firewall, AVG Free Edition, DivX codecs, Adobe Reader 8, FlashFXP and Yahoo Messenger. I've also installed FastStone Image Viewer for handling photos. It's an excellent, lightweight photo program that allows downloading, viewing and minor editing of photos. My final task is to install Norton Ghost and backup this configuration.

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Hi Phil,

Sounds like it's going really well. Will you have a chance to list just a few of the major XP components you have removed?

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I've had XPLite long time, when it was 98Lite.

It's a really good program and with lifetime updates.

Some of the slow down may be fixed with an M$ update. You should have used AutoPatcher XP. This has a load of tweaks and all patches.

To boost your system think about completely disabling some of the services.

You do not have to have a service in Automatic mode either. Sometimes you can set it to Manual and on executing the application it will start. Not all programs will start straight from Manual but I have only come across a few as a software tester for 15 years.

If you are using an AV prog use NOD32 V2.7.39. McAfee and Symantec are resource hogs not worth entertaining.

Programs to supercede yours are:

Trillian Basic (free) - http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/
Foxit Reader (free) - http://www.foxitsoftware.com/


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Hi Phil, I also used litepc some time ago for a PCW Hands On project and found it worked pretty well... it would definitely be an option I'd like to try on the Eee.

Sadly Asus have now grabbed my Eee PC back, so I'll have to buy one!

I actually installed a version of Windows XP Pro with SP2 already built-in - and the performance was fine. For 'a laugh' I also installed Office Ultimate 2007 and to my surprise found it ran really very well! (although remember my test model has 1GB RAM). I also attempted to install Photoshop CS3, but it refused, demanding an XGA screen as a minimum - bah!

Coincidentally, once I'd stripped down Office to just give me Word, Excel and Outlook, it also consumed about 1GB of disk space, leaving 1.53GB free without any streamlining of XP or compressing of the disk (although fixing the swap file to 256MB as advised by Asus).

The system also felt quite responsive, so I'm really not sure which OS I'd prefer to use on the Eee... maybe I'd dual boot XP from an SD card!

So how much disk space do you have remaining after your complete installation?

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I have 1.39Gb of disk space free (also with a fixed 256Mb swap file). I have installed almost all the apps I think I need and am very happy with the performance for a PC with only 512M of RAM. I'd dearly love to put 1Gb in it but I don't really want to void the warranty.

The only app I'm missing that I used regularly is Outlook 2007. I think I'll probably stay with using OWA for accessing my email on the EEE.

I'm going to continue stripping down XP and also investigate what services I can do without. I'm also going to forget about boot times. This current configuration does everything I need and starts up faster than my Vaio notebook.

Oh, before I forget, I love this little PC and can recommend it to anyone who wants an ultra portable, fully featured computer. It's going to be great for those trips away when I need to back up photos to hard disk, the main reason I bought it.

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Hi folks,

Asus has apparently relaxed its attitude to you upgrading your memory. Check out this news item for details. Presumably this is a global policy but it might be worth checking locally. :idea:

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This has been talked about on the EEE PC forums. At the moment this applies to the US and Canada where it isn't legal to enforce the sticker. There hasn't been any offical word from the UK.

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Bob, you asked what I had removed from my system using XPLite. Here's the list:

Accessibility Options
- all 6 components

Accessories
- Clipboard Viewer
- Default My Pictures
- Desktop Bitmaps
- Desktop Wallpapers
- Document Templates
- Mouse Pointers
- Paint
- Screen Savers - OpenGL
- Screen Savers - Standard

Communications and Messaging
- Address Book
- Chat
- Fax Service
- HyperTerminal
- NetMeeting
- Outlook Express
- Outlook express Stationery
- Phone Dialer
- USR/3Com Modem drivers
- Windows Messenger

Games
- all 7 components

Internet Utilities
- Macromedia Shockwave Player

Multimedia
- Audio Decoders
- Default My Music
- Media Player
- Utopia Sound Scheme
- Windows Media Player 6.4
- Windows Media Player Tour
- Windows Movie Maker

Operating System Options
- Driver Cache
- Microsoft Agent
- Microsoft Speech API
- Program Compatibility Engine
- Program Compatibility Wizard
- Search Assistant
- Windows Tour

Server Components
- Index Service language resources (all but UK)

System Services
- Smart Card Services
- Uninterruptible Power Supply Service

System Tools & Utilities
- Briefcase
- Dr Watson
- Files and Settings Transfer Wizard
- Remote Assistance

I've also set the maximum cache size for DLLCache to 1% of disk space. The full list of items that can be removed is given here.

Outside of XPLite, I've followed the instructions here to configure services according to the SAFE profile.

After all of this, my Windows folder is 904Mb with 7331 files in it. I have 1.48Gb of free disk space having installed all the apps I can think I'd need and fixed the swap file to 256Mb.

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Hi Phil,

Brilliant answer and thank you very much for taking the time to compose it. I've copied your list into one of my "Computer Admin" documents for use in the future. 8)

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Glad I could help. There's probably more I could get rid of, I just don't understand what effect removing some of the Advanced Components would have.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:23 pm 
That's pretty much all you can do Phil.

So is it running much better now all the junk is off?

I would disable indexing, and System Restore too.

What about the Accessibility Options too.


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