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 Post subject: Canon Or Sigma
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:42 pm 
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First of all, sorry if this had already been posted but I can't find it...


Anyway my Dilema is I'd like a lens upgrade for wildlife photography and Airshows...So I'm in a muddle as to go for the Canon 100-400 mm L IS USM, or a Sigma 400mm.. Sorry I haven't typed in all the letters for the Sigma ie..APO , DG, OS, HSM, EX, As I have no idea what these are comapared to IS (image Stabilizer) and L Series for the Canon, I'm worried about buying the wrong lens. I've heard the Canon has a nickname of "Dust Vac" because of its push pull focus. Either lens will probably be an Ebay purchase. What would be an equivilent Canon L series top notch Sigma lens ??


Can anyone help please :(


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 Post subject: Re: Canon Or Sigma
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:23 pm 
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APO , DG, OS, HSM, EX,

There is no APO eqivalent on Canon lenses. It means chromatic abberations are corrected. Canon lenses do have that but they don't call their lenses that way.
DG means EF (not EF-S, which is DC on Sigma lenses)
OS means IS (optical stabilizer instead of image stabilizer)
HSM means USM
EX is the top series, like Canon's L lenses. They have a golden ring instead of a red ring.

Personally I got the Canon 100-400mm 4.5-5.6L IS USM, which is my favourite lens; absolutely great. :D
The push-pull zoom is very fast and I got used to it in about no time.

The Sigma 400mm 5.6 APO HSM lens seems to be absolutely excellent looking at the optics. Seems to be sharper than both the Canon 100-400mm and the Canon 400mm 5.6. But it has no "OS" and no zoom. The minimal focusing distance ("macro" 1:3) is a bit shorter than on the 100-400mm (1:5) and much shorter than on the Canon 400mm (1:9).

Still the performance for the price might be pretty great on the Sigma as it costs only about 1/3 or even 1/4 of what you pay for the Canon 100-400mm if you buy used. Still you have to be careful as there are older Sigma 400mm lenses that can only be used with the aperture wide open. This one is the version that *should* be working without limitations: http://www.flickr.com/photos/huruguen/2921945252/

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 Post subject: Re: Canon Or Sigma
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 Post subject: Re: Canon Or Sigma
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:55 am 
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Jiko wrote:
Chris_Ev wrote:
APO , DG, OS, HSM, EX,

There is no APO eqivalent on Canon lenses. It means chromatic abberations are corrected. Canon lenses do have that but they don't call their lenses that way.
DG means EF (not EF-S, which is DC on Sigma lenses)
OS means IS (optical stabilizer instead of image stabilizer)
HSM means USM
EX is the top series, like Canon's L lenses. They have a golden ring instead of a red ring.

Personally I got the Canon 100-400mm 4.5-5.6L IS USM, which is my favourite lens; absolutely great. :D
The push-pull zoom is very fast and I got used to it in about no time.

The Sigma 400mm 5.6 APO HSM lens seems to be absolutely excellent looking at the optics. Seems to be sharper than both the Canon 100-400mm and the Canon 400mm 5.6. But it has no "OS" and no zoom. The minimal focusing distance ("macro" 1:3) is a bit shorter than on the 100-400mm (1:5) and much shorter than on the Canon 400mm (1:9).



Still the performance for the price might be pretty great on the Sigma as it costs only about 1/3 or even 1/4 of what you pay for the Canon 100-400mm if you buy used. Still you have to be careful as there are older Sigma 400mm lenses that can only be used with the aperture wide open. This one is the version that *should* be working without limitations: http://www.flickr.com/photos/huruguen/2921945252/




Thats brilliant Jiko, thank you so much :D

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 Post subject: Re: Canon Or Sigma
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:32 pm 
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After reading some reviews: The Sigmas AF seems to be fast but the Canon's AF is more precise. There are many happy users of the Sigma lens, even of the old version which has to be used at F5.6

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 Post subject: Re: Canon Or Sigma
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:49 pm 
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Jiko wrote:
Chris_Ev wrote:
APO , DG, OS, HSM, EX,

There is no APO eqivalent on Canon lenses. It means chromatic abberations are corrected. Canon lenses do have that but they don't call their lenses that way.
DG means EF (not EF-S, which is DC on Sigma lenses)
OS means IS (optical stabilizer instead of image stabilizer)
HSM means USM
EX is the top series, like Canon's L lenses. They have a golden ring instead of a red ring.

Personally I got the Canon 100-400mm 4.5-5.6L IS USM, which is my favourite lens; absolutely great. :D
The push-pull zoom is very fast and I got used to it in about no time.

The Sigma 400mm 5.6 APO HSM lens seems to be absolutely excellent looking at the optics. Seems to be sharper than both the Canon 100-400mm and the Canon 400mm 5.6. But it has no "OS" and no zoom. The minimal focusing distance ("macro" 1:3) is a bit shorter than on the 100-400mm (1:5) and much shorter than on the Canon 400mm (1:9).




Still the performance for the price might be pretty great on the Sigma as it costs only about 1/3 or even 1/4 of what you pay for the Canon 100-400mm if you buy used. Still you have to be careful as there are older Sigma 400mm lenses that can only be used with the aperture wide open. This one is the version that *should* be working without limitations: http://www.flickr.com/photos/huruguen/2921945252/




Thanks very much Jiko, but can you help me one more time, this is for sale and I don't know whether it will work on my 550D, .......Sigma 135-400mm APO AF , is this the restricted one please, any help anyone...

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 Post subject: Re: Canon Or Sigma
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:53 pm 
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Are there any more letters in its name like ASP or DG? Well - at least I found a test of the 135-400mm 4.5-5.6 Apo Aspherical RF and it was used on an EOS 350D so I guess it souldn't be a problem. If it has a DG in it's name it's definitely no problem. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Canon Or Sigma
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:07 pm 
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Jiko wrote:
Are there any more letters in its name like ASP or DG? Well - at least I found a test of the 135-400mm 4.5-5.6 Apo Aspherical RF and it was used on an EOS 350D so I guess it souldn't be a problem. If it has a DG in it's name it's definitely no problem. :wink:




Thanks Jiko, I've told him I didn't want it as it had no HSM, OS, not even EX ,

but I've noticed one of these ....Any good, honest opinion please as I can't afford a 100-400 L IS Canon ...

Sigma EX 150-500mm f/5.0-6.3 DG HSM APO OS...Would this be any good ??

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 Post subject: Re: Canon Or Sigma
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:36 am 
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If I didn't have the 100-400mm and couldn't afford one, I'd go for the Sigma 150-500mm (or the 50-500mm). It's not as sharp as the 100-400mm but still a great lens with an extremely nice zoom range.

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 Post subject: Re: Canon Or Sigma
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:49 am 
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Thanks Jiko, Funny you should say that, I've nearly saved up enough money now and I can get a 150-500 Sigma for about £745, but It doesn't have EX :-(, I don't know what to do now as I could also get the Canon 100-400mm L series, oh god what do I do, please help.

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 Post subject: Re: Canon Or Sigma
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If cost is the biggest issue (30% cheaper) I'd go with the Siggy @ £599 here; http://www.digitalrev.com/product/sigma ... MzAyMg_A_A
But if you can afford the L (@ £1040) I'd go with that. You can get a 1.4 or 2x extender later if needed; http://www.digitalrev.com/product/canon ... mm-f/MjY_A

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