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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:49 pm 
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I've been looking at FF camera, and it bothers me that every time Nikon is cheaper, both camera and lenses.
About 10-20% cheaper and with every new release from Canon it's like the gap becomes larger.

I have canon and a bunch of canon gear, no complaints about the quality, but I must admit I have serious considerations about "joining the enemy". Because with buying a FF camera I can't use some of my lenses from my crop frame camera, so I have to go shopping

Today I would probably buy Nikon if I should start all over.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:36 pm 
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I have serious considerations about "joining the enemy".


There's no such thing (in either direction) you buy what you think is best for you!

I guess it boils down to how many lenses you'll need to sell & what cost to change systems.

What lens would you use mainly on a new FF Nikon, that you can't get from Canon?

Might sound a bit obvious, but if you really want a Nikon + 1 or 2 certain lenses, would it be cheaper to use both systems?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:12 pm 
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I'm thinking:
FF body
16-35 f 2,8 (-ish)
24-70 mm f 2,8
50 mm f 1,4

I have
sigma 150 mm macro
canon 100-400
And I can pretty much get something equal with nikon

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:54 am 
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Well - that macro lens and the tele lens would be reason enough for me to stay with the existing system. Otherwise I wouldn't just look at Nikon but at Sony as well.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:57 am 
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Well Sigma makes 150 mm macro lenses for nikon as well. So it boils down to being just the 100-400 mm lens....
Nikon or sigma must have a lens that serves the same purpose


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:46 am 
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Canon or Nikon or Sony. :?: :?: :idea:

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:28 pm 
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Nikon is the enemy? A quick look at my signature lines, below, will indicate that I do not consider either Canon or Nikon to be enemies. The one thing that does bother me, however, about the newer Nikons, is the ergonomics. Until the 7D was released, I preferred the feel of Nikon camera bodies, as the Canons tended to feel like bricks. The 7D was a dramatic ergonomic improvement, and the 5D Mark III has followed suit. When I handled the Nikon D800 and D600, I found that it is now Nikons that feel like bricks, are less secure in my grasp, especially where the right thumb rests, and my wrist starts to ache within minutes. (I am developing a touch of arthritis.)

Of course, this is an individual thing, and if one mostly shoots with tripods, much less important. I am considering an eventual D800E purchase, but mostly for landscapes, which are shot with a tripod, and with a remote shutter release.

Then, there is the matter of re-learning the controls. I noticed that the D7000 I bought for my Nikonian wife had some important controls that were different from earlier Nikons. She had quite a bit of trouble re-learning the D7000 controls, after being familiar with the D300s, D300, and D200. This was particularly vexing because she shoots evidentiary forensic images at night, when controls are more difficult to see. Of course, anything new can be learned, but there is going to be a transition period. Folks who study such things say that it takes about 3500 repetitions for an action to become reflexive,
rather than a conscious action.

Personally, I have two 7D bodies is because I know the 7D best, my right wrist does not ache, and I, too, shoot evidentiary images at night. I am grateful that the 5D Mark III largely shares ergonomics and controls with the 7D, so it is more likely that the 5D3 will be my next FF purchase, rather than a Nikon FX. Of course, I am more heavily invested in nicer Canon lenses, too.

I am not recommending either path, just providing some food for thought. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:24 am 
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I'm currently testing and reviewing (in the style of a working photog rather than resolution testing, dynamic range busting, chart quoting) the D600 and D800 together.

They're both great. My ideal (as many D700 owners would probably agree) would be the body/autofocus of the D800 combined with the D600's sensor.

Try that little D600 out - it's growing on me, massively. Shame, for me, it's far too small without a grip.


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