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Canon Powershot G12 60%  60%  [ 3 ]
Nikon Coolpix P7000 40%  40%  [ 2 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:40 am 
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This is for a friend.

I noticed that the aperture is better on the Canon and it has an articulated screen.

Your views?

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Id wait for GordonĀ“s review :wink:

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The Olympus XZ-1 might be better than both of them if it's available in time. :idea:

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I prefer the smaller ones like the S90 or whatever they're called on the current iterations. Thats the camera Id get


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:58 pm 
Looked into it, the S95 is smaller than both of these and has an f2 lens, a stop faster than the two you mention, which in compact land is a lot, because ISO performance leaves a lot to be desired.

Out of the two though Id go for the G12 as I didnt like the way the Nikon compacts (and I have tried this one) process their images. I think the colours come out differently to a Canon compact on the same scene.

Also maybe look into the panasonic LX 5?


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The Olympus XZ-1 might be better than both of them if it's available in time.


No viewfinder, no way!

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Hi Evan,

Each to their own. I used to think the same and I never use Live View for composition on my 5D Mark II except, of course, for those rare occasions when I use it to shoot video. When I bought my PowerShot G10 I fully expected to use its viewfinder but funnily enough I hardly ever do. "Go figure", as I believe the expression goes. :? :lol:

But, for the record, the XZ-1 accepts the VF-2 electronic viewfinder in its accessory port, though that obviously adds to the size and cost. Personally I'd find that less than convenient but, again, each to their own.

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Bob,
Do you not use live view ever? not even when in an indoors environment when there is no glare on the screen?

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With the slow AF? :shock:
How can you get a steady shot if you dont have your camera against your face? Indoors, with slow shutter speeds?
I guess Bob's a photographer for at least as long as I am, from the analog SLR age.

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The older G11 isnt an option? Low noise, and (Evan;)) a viewfinder. :wink: and a nice articulated screen! It's price shouldnt be too high either.

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Slow AF? - Is that such a problem in a potentially controlled environment?
I prefer just to turn the end, it focuses where I want it to, not where the camera wants to.

It is still possible to establish a sturdy grip without having to have it up to your face. In fact, quite a few consumer cameras now do not even have a viewfinder.

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Im not going to respond to your comment, because I guess our views are totally different.

Looked at the G11 already?;)

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Hi Canon 500D,

As far as I'm concerned Live View on my 5D2 is for movies and, potentially, for critical manual focussing. As Ruben correctly infers I developed my photographic habits a very long time ago and I find that on that camera the viewfinder is the way to go.

I think my problem with using the G10 viewfinder is the small size of the camera. With a DSLR my left hand is under the lens as usual but with a compact, even one as large is the G10, it feels odd holding the camera body with both hands and then bringing it up to my face. Almost as though I'm about to blow my nose and that would never do - it'd get the LCD screen dirty! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I have looked through a 35mm SLR and the viewfinder on it was far better than the ones that Canon use on their DSLRs.

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This is getting off-topic so far as the thread heading is concerned (but it's your thread!) but to compare like with like you need to look through the viewfinder of a 5D Mark II rather than a cropped sensor camera if you are comparing against a 35mm SLR.

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