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How often do you upgrade your DSLR ?
Poll ended at Wed May 26, 2010 9:17 pm
Within 6 months of ownership 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Within 12 months of ownership 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
Every 12-18 months 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Every 18-24 months 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Every 2-3 Years 18%  18%  [ 6 ]
Every 3-5 Years 15%  15%  [ 5 ]
5 Years + 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
I am currently using My first DSLR 42%  42%  [ 14 ]
Total votes : 33
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I wouldn't say there is a general right order to upgrade. For your needs and goals, you have to consider those and how upgrades affect it. For example, recently I had a quick dabble in shallow DoF, as a used full frame body plus cheap big aperture lenses was cheaper than the even faster lenses needed on crop sensor to get the same effect.

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Popo,
Can I ask what you mean by Faster lenses?

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Faster lens=lenses with bigger aperture. Thus allowing the sensor to collect more light and allowing for a faster shutter speed for the proper exposure.

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It has become apparent that the majority of voters are on their first DSLR. I often think that there is no point in upgrading unless you know your current camera inside out.

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Correct. Once you feel you are limited by your current DSLR, it's time to move on. That's the reason why I am so eager to get an A7XX...I need more speed.

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I usually like to purchase a camera that is quite new, but also want to avoid the top prices that are accociated with it, at the time of sale. The 500D I bought 9-10 months after release. This insured that is wasn't totally outdated, nor was I paying top price for it either.

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What's wrong with the predecessor of a new model?

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Nothing, except that the new ones are always better- otherwise manufacturers wouldn't sell them :). It's up to the customer to decide if the higher price is worth the newer features. Picture quality depends to a certain extent on the lens rather than the lens (except for noise at high ISO or so).

Bottom line: nothing wrong with it, especially if you can pick a perfect camera for relatively few money :wink:.

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Why fall into the trap set by the marketing men!
Everything from soap powder to motor cars are these days sold as 'new' and 'improved'. A truly ground-breaking product is very rare.
Yes the latest cameras have much better high ISO performance and more bells and whistles, but I seem to recall 400ASA was the fastest film I ever used.
I'll stick with my D70 and D2Xs for a while yet. If I have money to spend it will be on better lenses or a course on improving my technique.

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By that logic, why bother producing anything new ever at all? The new features do make a difference, if you use them. Fair enough they're redundant if you don't. New features do open up new possibilities. Wont change the old stuff, but you can explore what else is now possible that wouldn't have been before. It doesn't need to be revolutionary to be better.

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By that logic, why bother producing anything new ever at all?

Please don't think I'm against innovation and development. I read the reviews on new products avidly, and marvel at their technology. If you offered me a new D3x I would bite your hand off, but I'm arguing that it won't necessarily make me a better photographer, which so many of the marketing campaigns would have me believe or suddenly render my existing equipment useless. What they also won't tell me is that my existing mediocre lenses are likely to produce inferior and disappointing results on that camera, and that the file size is so big that my computer will need replacing too.
It suits my purposes not to rush in and upgrade as soon as a new model is announced, but I'll envy the guy next to me who has. :)

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Although I haven't yet tried shooting concerts or parties, but try that at ISO 400 with a f/2.8 (zoom) lens. I know a guy who regularly does that and he'll tell you that the high-ISO is important (for me high ISO is 800 and above). Take the picture below, for example. You need the high shutter speed to get the performers sharp, without blur...so high ISO is required. And this is at f/2.8 and ISO 800...yet, the shutter speed is only 1/100...which isn't that much, at 150mm = 35mm field of view of 225mm.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stijnvande ... 3673/meta/

Or just ask Bjorn, he shoots such events on a regular basis.

For your purposes ISO 400 may not be necessary, but it certainly serves a purpose.

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I can't deny that I would love that facility but I'm no professional so results like this below keep me happy.

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D70, Nikkor 50mm F1.8, ISO400, 1/160 f3.2, hand held, stage lighting

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What's wrong with the predecessor of a new model?


I don't want old features. It's like buying a non IS lens, when an IS system has been released. I want my products to be as new as possible, also avoiding sky high launch prices.

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Canon500D, I think that's your opinion, and mine is mine.
Is lenses exist for ages.
You want your products to be as new as possible, typically a talk of a gagetary person. How much people are using a Canon 450D? Many. Why dont the upgrade to the 550D? Because with the 450D you can take the SAME pictures as with the 550D.
Yes, the 550D has video, has a 920K LCD etc., but what youre saying is really your opinion.
Before your post is a photo taken with the D70. It's an OLD camera.
Many of the fist camera/dslr buyers want new feautres, but could you tell me that pro users use video on a dSLR, or prefer the 3:2 screen instead of the 4:3 one?

It isnt as angry meant as you may think, but Ive to study really hard for a test tomorrow, which I dont understand at ALL. So Im angry. :evil:

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