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 Post subject: nikon d80 vs canon 400d
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:25 pm 
im getting my first 'proper' digital camera in a couple of weeks and im still not 100% decided on which one. i have read quite a bit about both cameras but to be honest alot of it dosent mean very much to me. the reason i want to get a pretty good camera is so that i can keep it for years to come and not get to a point where i was wishing for more features.
i have been into photography for years but with film cameras and i certainly wouldnt say i was particularly knowledgeable about those either.
i cant see that many differences between the cameras but the price differences are huge!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:36 pm 
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Hi leonak,

A warm welcome to the CameraLabs forums.

I am sure others will chip in to this debate, especially as this is your first post on the forum. In the meantime you might like to check out these threads where the topic has been discussed before:

http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1488
http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=698
http://www.cameralabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=85

Then, of course, there are Gordon's reviews of the D80 and the 400D/XTi.

Let us know how you get on.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:41 pm 
thanks for that. given me plenty to read. still not sure though!! il have to go and look at both cameras in the shops. my mum is going to new york and thats where the camera will come from. im fairly stuck on what lens to get as well. the camera i use at the moment is a canon a1 which i adore. the lens i use the most is a 50mm i think. no zoom or anything so im pretty sure thats what it is. iv also got a nikon which was bought for me in the states about 8 years ago. i dont have it infront of me but its either an f60 or n60. either way i think it was only avaliable in the states and its worth about 10p now. horrible thing and i never use it. that has a standard lens which is neither a decent zoom nor good for anything else so no help really in deciding what to get!


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I was debating on both of those cameras also, I decided on the 400D/XTi for one simple fact...it fit better in my hands. :D

Have you had a chance to hold them...that could be the deciding factor.

I'm going with the:

Canon Digital Rebel XTi Black
Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 Image Stabilized USM SLR Lens
Canon 430EX Speedlite Flash

Good Luck!

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PS - we've also directly compareed both models - and the A100 - here:

http://www.cameralabs.com/features/10Me ... DSLR_test/


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:48 am 
i think the main thing i want to know is what makes the nikon worth more money?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:28 pm 
i had a look at both cameras today. canon felt a bit better to hold and obviously lighter but menu much nicer on nikon and seemed a bit more straight forward. still no more decided!


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I'm glad you held them both. I can always learn/get used to a menu...but the way it feel in my hands will never change. :D

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:48 pm 
Hi guys,

Is the Nikon worth the extra money over the Canon?

I'm gonna buy one out of the two this weekend so would love to know what you think.

I've read Gordon's review and and held both and am still undecided.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

P.S. Great Website!!!


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Hello maguire23, and welcome to the friendly Camera Labs forum.
I'll repeat what I have said elsewhere:
"Myself has only experience with Nikon D80 so I cannot comment on it in comparison to other makes (and if I would everybody knows that my fanboyism will color the results ).
But still I'll try to give you a direction for those three models: I think to have heard around the net that the D80 is best with regard to focussing and exposure, although not without flaws.
Now (ducking) let the flak start..."
Other than that IQ should be roughly comparable.

But you've surely read Gordon's reviews of both cameras. He's impartial!

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Hi Maguire23, the D80 is arguably superior to the 400D, but it is a pricier camera. Whether it's worth paying the extra is entirely up to you, the buyer!

An £8 wine may be better than a £5 one for example, but is it worth paying the extra? Only you can decide!

If you haven't already done so, you must pick up and handle both in person.

I've compared the features in our 10 Mpixel group test verdict here:

http://www.cameralabs.com/features/10Me ... age6.shtml

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:25 am 
tombomba2 wrote:
the D80 is best with regard to focussing and exposure, although not without flaws


What kind of flaws?


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Gordon Laing wrote:
An £8 wine may be better than a £5 one for example...

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Trouble is that a £5 bottle of very palatable NZ wine bought in the UK costs £8. :x
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:57 am 
Very true, thats why I'm buying from America :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:02 pm 
oi! stop hijacking my thread! :)
im going for the canon i think.. leaves a bit more $ for lenses.. better start another thread....


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