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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:04 pm 
Not trying to sway your decision Nathan, but have you managed to get to 'feel' the D200 yet ?
Have you thought out about the weight thing ?

The D200 is quite heavy -
Weight (without battery, memory card or body cap or monitor cover) 830 g
whilst D80 is
Weight (without battery, memory card or body cap or monitor cover) Approx. 585g (1 lb. 5 oz.)

D300 is
Weight (without battery, memory card or body cap or monitor cover) Approx. 825 g (1.82 lbs.)

Once you added necessary parts - Battery or Grip and lens - it will weight more than 1kg , I'll say around 2-3 lbs, maybe more depending on lens.


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Plus, just because the D80 isn't "Weather Sealed" doesn't mean it is going to break when it gets a tiny drip of water or a tiny bit of dust on it.

As for next year, unless you really feel the need to get a D200/300, then I would just buy more lenses and accessories - Although, thats what I'm doing so that may be why I'm telling you to do it!

My 350D, i'll be keeping that for a good year at least, and in that time, I'll hopefully buy (instead of a 40D an a telephoto lens):

Sigma 10-20mm (EF-S) + 50mm f/1.8 (EF) + Telephoto lens x-300mm (EF) + 17-85mm (EF-S) + Speed Light 580 EX II + Reflectors + Grads and Polers

All that...or a Shiny new 40D, with a Grip and at one of those lenses, over £1000 easy, and really, its not a massive jump in IQ over the 350D, unlike the jump between 350D and 5D which is bigger!

Hopefully you get the D80, as I can see you taking much better pictures with a D80 and selection of lenses, than a D200 or even a D2X(s) or D2H with a 18-135

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:34 pm 
I havn't had a chance to hold one myself yet, only shoot around one. The weight and size is irelevant to me, I think the bigger the better.haha.

So I should get the D80 and try to get a D200 body for like $1200 next year if not lower than that.


Maybe?

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Nathan, you really should hold one yourself. I know you're dead keen on a D200, but you should try it in person first as it may not feel right to you. I can't imagine this though, as it feels fantastic, but you never know!

If no local shops have one in stock, maybe you could plan a trip to a bigger town? It is an important purchase after all...


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:13 am 
Gordon, the only place I could get one is Ritz Camera. The thing is they would have to order it, which would mean they would expect me to buy it I am sure. I think a D80, soon after MB-D80, 18-135mm, SB-600 will sufice till I get a semi-pro in the summer.

I think.haha. I might change my mind again, but not likely. I think I am solid on the decision to wait.

I think.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:09 am 
I am also saving up a D200, Nate, and since the D300 is going to be on the market, the 200 will DROP so I am getting a higher level camera instead of the Canon EOS 30D because:

1. Weather Sealing
2. Faster 5fps. (I do some sports)
3. Tough body
4. I already have a few Nikon lenses


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:24 am 
I will be able to wait it out until Nov. and I will see if the price is gonna drop significantly, like to say$1300-1450 maybe even less. If so then I am definetely gonna buy the D200 and if not I will stick with getting a D80 with 18-135mm until maybe July '08.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:23 am 
I think it is important that you get to hold both before you decide. I have never felt that the D80 was poorly built or not solid enough. Even without the magnesium alloy body, the D80 is still a step up from the D40.


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Oy Nathan.
I was pretty sure that you'd come up with that question again (and again, ...). Those young ones always think they have no time :?
My advice: fix your sight on the D300, go straight for it :idea: This will be the best one for you :!:
And until you can afford that super-body, just save, save and save.
In the end, it's much cheaper to make less upgrade steps than to buy the D80/D80x/d300 or the D200/D300.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:41 pm 
Yeah, I have been troubled and asking about this again and again, but to me it is a pretty big decision. I see that everyone here who has a D80 is happy with it, and if I don't hear anything about price drops in Nov. then I think I will go ahead and get that and wait until later next year to get a semi-pro.


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Hi Nathan,

If the D200 appeals as an intermediate step until you are ready for the D300 why not consider buying a used D200, especially if (as it should IMO) it has had a Nikon service prior to sale? I know that this goes in the face of Thomas' excellent advice but it may be a reasonable option given that you could sell the D200 on when you are ready to upgrade and may not lose too much overall.

Bob.

P.S. See what happens when you ask advice! You get as many conflicting opinions as there are options. :roll:

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But next time Nathan asks, I'll keep schtum :!:

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:37 pm 
Well if I did buy a D200 I really wouldn't want to upgrade to a D300. I would focus more on glass and other things. I mean I would take a D300 but I would be happy with what the D200 has.


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I'd personally say from what I've heard the D300 has a larger IQ increase + features than the D80 over D200 - and besides a D80 + Good Glass will look just as good as a D200 + Good Glass, so D300 + Good Glass will look even better!

D80 + Good Glass now.

Next Year - D300 + Good Glass - Even better quality!

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No, Nathan, you won't ("be happy" that is) :(
...at least not for a long time...

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