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 Post subject: Im new to all this.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:43 pm 
Hi everyone at Photolabs,

I am new to the photography world and im thinking of purchasing my first DSLR, I know I want all the manual settings but Im just not sure what camera to buy - my options were the Canon 30D, 400D or the Fuji Finepix S8000 fd.
Obviously the price is vary a lot but what do you think I should invest in?
I'm an infant in the photography world but I have big ambitions so what do you think?
or is it just a question of how much I want to spend?

kind regards
Drunken_Photographer


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 Post subject: Choices
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:59 pm 
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If you are still unsure whether to go for a DSLR or a Super-Zoom then Gordon's feature Should you buy a DSLR or a Compact? may be useful as it covers super-zooms as well.

Then there are his features The best budget digital SLRs and The best super-zoom digital cameras.

Keep an eye on the Canon EOS 30D prices as there are already a few special deals out there, presumably in response to the launch of the 40D. Gordon has reviewed this camera here and it is still highly regarded.

Bob.

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Hi Drunk photographer, welcome to the Photolabs - ahem, I mean, Cameralabs forums!

If you're after a DSLR, don't get the Fuji S8000 fd, as it's a super-zoom non-DSLR model!

If you're after your first DSLR, check out our budget DSLR Buyers Guide - these are the best affordable models available right now:

http://www.cameralabs.com/buyers_guide/ ... DSLR.shtml

Gordon


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Sorry Gordon - didn't notice you were online!

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Leica D Vario-Elmar 14mm-150mm f/3.5 - f/5.6 ASPH.
OM-D E-M5, H-PS14042E, Gitzo GT1541T, Arca-Swiss Z1 DP ball-head.
Astrophotography: TEC 140 'scope, FLI ML16803 camera, ASA DDM60 Pro mount.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:46 am 
ok no to the Fuji but I was seriously considering the 400D and an additional lens for it because the supplied lens isn't good for taking full advantage of the camera and its not so versatile being only 18-55.
Basically, once I had bought the 400D and the additional lens the total price I was going to forego was something around 700-800, and then I looked at the 30D and the deal Jessops are doing with a USM 17-85mm lens for £850 I thought it was well worth the buy.
So I'll go for the 30D, what do you guys think?
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 Post subject: 30D
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:11 pm 
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Drunk_Photographer wrote:
So I'll go for the 30D, what do you guys think?
cheers

I don't think you will find anyone will disagree with your choice - a semi-pro DSLR with great image quality at budget DSLR prices!

I am sure you have seen the Canon EF-S 17-85mm f4~5.6 IS USM lens review and also the Canon EOS 400D / Rebel XTi lens upgrade group test feature on this site. In the review Gordon states that the "Canon EF-S 17-85mm promises to be the perfect general-purpose lens for owners of Canon DSLRs with compatible mounts". Good choice.

Don't forget you will need a Compact Flash card (Type I / II) for your new camera. A 2GB card should cost you under £20/€30/US$40.

Bob.

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Leica D Vario-Elmar 14mm-150mm f/3.5 - f/5.6 ASPH.
OM-D E-M5, H-PS14042E, Gitzo GT1541T, Arca-Swiss Z1 DP ball-head.
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There'll be some good prices on the 30D now that the 40D has come out, and it's still a great camera, especially with a 17-85mm lens...


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 Post subject: Canon 17-85mm
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:28 am 
Hi Gordon

I mentioned fungus and dirt inside my 17-85 a while ago. I dealt with that but today was helping a friend who is getting "Error 99" messages on a 400D with 17-85 on it. I tried another lens of mine and no problem. Seems it is the lens again?
Has anyone come across this error message? The camera and lens are still under warranty so back to Canon they go for the owner, but I seem to read of a few problems with this particular lens?


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I've never personally come across a Canon Error 99, but apparently it affects other Canon DSLRs and lenses and may be to do with dirty contacts between the lens and body... anyone else come across it?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:23 am 
is this a common problem with this lens? A guy told me at the camera shop Canon are releasing a lens to replace the 17-85?


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 Post subject: EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 IS
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Drunk_Photographer wrote:
is this a common problem with this lens? A guy told me at the camera shop Canon are releasing a lens to replace the 17-85?

I think you are referring to the EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 IS, launched just over a week ago. Gordon referred to it in his 40D Preview and you can find more detail here.

Bob.

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Leica D Vario-Elmar 14mm-150mm f/3.5 - f/5.6 ASPH.
OM-D E-M5, H-PS14042E, Gitzo GT1541T, Arca-Swiss Z1 DP ball-head.
Astrophotography: TEC 140 'scope, FLI ML16803 camera, ASA DDM60 Pro mount.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:35 pm 
I See, can anyone recommend any good read on digital photography - Basic advice and explanations etc.

kind regards
Drunk_photographer


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:31 pm 
Drunk_Photographer wrote:
I See, can anyone recommend any good read on digital photography - Basic advice and explanations etc.

For a gentle introduction to photography take a look at Short Courses. It seems they recently updated their guide so I'll take a look at their new material soon - seems quite nice and comprehensive now!

Beyond that, I would recommend Bryan Peterson's book "Understanding Exposure".

Darrin


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