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 Post subject: HDRs for Alex
PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:52 pm 
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All of the above was merged from 3 raw files shooted with an EOS 400d or EOS 30D using the kit lens and merged in Photoshop CS3.

So sorry to dissapoint both you Alex and Photoj, but I think that I'm cappable of providing better HDR images than both of you although I'm not so "cocky" like you two guys. Dissapointing to see such attitude here on a forum like the one here on CL.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:24 pm 
The attitude is coming from both sides and it seems as though you have created this thread in the knowledge that you will receive argumentative comments. Who cares whether you use Photomatrix or Photoshop to produce HDRs? The end result is the most important thing and producing sarcastically provocative threads such as this is neither conducive to the promotion of good HDR production or photography as a whole.

As you have stated, it is, indeed, disappointing to see such attitude on the forum.

EDIT - Mods feel free to delete my post if you decide to neutralise HNV's thread. 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:31 pm 
Markh,

I do agree with you but i.e. Photoj considered that my replies are innapropriate. Or I tried to provide constructive criticism every time I left a reply. That's why I have unde 100 post and others hundreds. I believe I have the right to be offended!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:33 pm 
I believe that, on the whole, all members of the forum provide constructive criticism, but it is of course your right to be offeneded.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:51 pm 
It is sad that I have to add a clarification of my response on the original thread from the architecture and urban landscape section here.

You're not the only member that utilises both software packages mentioned. I apologise if I offended you, but if you read my reasons, my stance should be justifiable in your comments regarding software.

I won't be provoked into unleashing examples of my HDR work, suffice to say this thread was opened with an underlying agenda. Once again I leave it to the moderators to judge whether I've stepped out of line.


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HNV, it's always good to compare different approaches and hear about different programs - and clearly you've got some great HDR results - but I don't think you can say categorically that one program is better than the other for this kind of work. They are different and yield different results. In the hands of one person, one may be preferred, but someone else might do a great job with the other.

What's important is if you use a tool or technique that few others are mentioning, then yes please, tell us all about it. But don't say it's better for everyone - it's better for you personally.

It may also be a translation thing, but it doesn't come across very well to say your own photos are better than someone elses. I think your HDR images are certainly very good, but equally so are others posted here. So let your images speak for themselves and let others judge them and commend or advise. Doing so will gain respect rather than lose it.

I've also posted this as a reply to the thread in the urban section.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:52 am 
Those are some neat Photoshop HDR's but i think this is very subjective topic on which software is the "best". I m not even going to step down to the level were i would say such a thing as:

HNV wrote:
So sorry to dissapoint both you Alex and Photoj, but I think that I'm cappable of providing better HDR images than both of you


Since when was sharing a discussion on these forums a so called "competition ". Its not, deal with it. I never along the lines said i can deliver HDR photos then anyone here.

When was i ever "cocky" i was merely trying to start a discussion which you some what along the way took personal which i didn't but now you made it personal, which i never intended it to be from the begging but it seems as if you just wanted to cause problems. If you return to the original thread you will see that i clearly stated "dont mean to bash here", next time read the posts correctly.

EDIT: you got some halo's up there...


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My personal remark:
Some of you guys are so backward, backward, backward...
... and advice:
Look forward, forward, forward!
If you can't find a good thing in posts of the past, get over with them / forget about them! Pick up the good things of posts here on the forum and try to build on that. Add a new idea, new perspective, try to do it better.
But don't waste your time and that of fellow readers here on the forum to delve deeper into what was bad/worse/worst.

Btw. in my experience the differences in professional software don't explain much of the results, that people get out of them. The best example being the results of my efforts with PhotoMatix vs. Zorro's results with the same software. I could not even touch his results :D

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Ah, I'm embarassed, lol.

Here's a thing - how about linking to the 3 or 5 original source images so as to allow others to test and reach their own conclusions?

I've always dreamt of owning a Porsche 911GT3. I'm guessing though, Jackie Stewart would beat me in a Ford Escort.

Zorro 8)

P.S. - I'm deliberately not commenting on your images because I'm guessing that's not the raison d'etre of this thread.


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